{"id":118369,"date":"2025-07-07T16:46:23","date_gmt":"2025-07-07T16:46:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/?p=118369"},"modified":"2025-07-07T16:46:23","modified_gmt":"2025-07-07T16:46:23","slug":"berisha-me-gazetaret-nga-diaspora-programi-i-pd-me-i-miri-vota-vdiq-pa-hyre-ne-kuti-11-maji-farse-elektorale","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/2025\/07\/07\/berisha-me-gazetaret-nga-diaspora-programi-i-pd-me-i-miri-vota-vdiq-pa-hyre-ne-kuti-11-maji-farse-elektorale\/","title":{"rendered":"Berisha me gazetar\u00ebt nga diaspora: Programi i PD m\u00eb i miri, vota vdiq pa hyr\u00eb n\u00eb kuti! 11 maji, fars\u00eb elektorale"},"content":{"rendered":"

INTERVISTA E KRYETARIT T\u00cb PD, PROF. DR. SALI BERISHA, ME GAZETAR\u00cbT E DIASPOR\u00cbS<\/strong><\/p>\n

N\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb t\u00eb zhvilluar me Unionin e Gazetar\u00ebve Shqiptar\u00eb Profesionist\u00eb t\u00eb Diaspor\u00ebs, Kryetari i Partis\u00eb Demokratike, Prof. Dr. Sali Berisha, deklaroi se \u201cnarko-diktaturat nuk p\u00ebrmbysen me vot\u00eb\u201d dhe I cil\u00ebsoi zgjedhjet t\u00eb 11 majit si nj\u00eb fars\u00eb elektorale. Berisha theksoi se, ndon\u00ebse opozita p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebson nj\u00eb kauz\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb, ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb e pafuqishme p\u00ebrball\u00eb nj\u00eb regjimi q\u00eb e quan \u201cnarko-shtet\u201d, i cili kontrollon drejt\u00ebsin\u00eb, zgjedhjet dhe mediat.<\/em><\/p>\n

Berisha foli p\u00ebr munges\u00ebn e mb\u00ebshtetjes nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare dhe v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsin\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb shpjeguar n\u00eb Europ\u00eb natyr\u00ebn e nj\u00eb regjimi q\u00eb nuk ka precedent\u00eb n\u00eb continent, nj\u00eb narko-diktatur\u00eb. N\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigje t\u00eb pyetjes p\u00ebr sensibilizimin e Per\u00ebndimit, Berisha ritheksoi pes\u00eb rezolutat e miratuara nga organizata dhe parti nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare t\u00eb qendr\u00ebs s\u00eb djatht\u00eb (CDI, IDU dhe PPE), t\u00eb cilat denoncojn\u00eb zgjedhjet e fundit dhe qeverisjen e Edi Ram\u00ebs.<\/em><\/p>\n

Lideri Opozitar, Sali Berisha, foli mbi ndikimin e marr\u00ebveshjeve nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare, si ajo me Italin\u00eb p\u00ebr emigrant\u00ebt, duke akuzuar qeverin\u00eb se jep gjith\u00e7ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb q\u00ebndruar n\u00eb pushtet dhe p\u00ebr t\u00eb siguruar mb\u00ebshtetje nga jasht\u00eb.<\/em><\/p>\n

Berisha e cil\u00ebsoi programin e PD-s\u00eb si \u201cm\u00eb t\u00eb mirin n\u00eb historin\u00eb e Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb\u201d, por theksoi se \u201cvota vdiq pa hyr\u00eb n\u00eb kuti\u201d, duke l\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00eb kuptohet se rruga p\u00ebr ndryshim nuk mund t\u00eb vij\u00eb p\u00ebrmes proceseve elektorale aktuale.<\/em><\/p>\n

INTERVISTA E PLOT\u00cb<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, doktor! Si jeni?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, Alba! Mir\u00ebm\u00ebngjes, ju q\u00eb jeni n\u00eb kontinentin tjet\u00ebr, dhe p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje t\u00eb p\u00ebrzem\u00ebrt t\u00eb gjith\u00ebve ju n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb lidhje, n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb konferenc\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:<\/strong>\u00a0Me lejen e koleg\u00ebve, un\u00eb dua ta nis.<\/p>\n

Doktor, ju fal\u00ebnderoj. Urojm\u00eb pjes\u00ebmarrjen dhe mik\u00ebpritjen e Dr. Sali Berish\u00ebs, i cili pranoi ftes\u00ebn ton\u00eb. Ne, doktor, do t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb nj\u00eb prezantim t\u00eb shkurt\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

Jemi Unioni i Gazetar\u00ebve Shqiptar\u00eb Profesioniste t\u00eb Diaspor\u00ebs. Jemi nga vende t\u00eb ndryshme t\u00eb Europ\u00ebs dhe t\u00eb bot\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Jemi krijuar n\u00eb vitin 2021. Jemi t\u00eb regjistruar n\u00eb Bern\u00eb t\u00eb Zvicr\u00ebs. Jemi me misionin e nxitjes s\u00eb nj\u00eb debati publik n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri p\u00ebr nevoj\u00ebn e liris\u00eb s\u00eb fjal\u00ebs dhe misionit t\u00eb s\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Ne, jemi 7 an\u00ebtar\u00ebt e bordit drejtues, dhe k\u00ebt\u00eb bised\u00eb e kemi titulluar \u201c7 pyetje\u201d, bised\u00eb n\u00eb studio.<\/p>\n

E kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb edhe me krer\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb t\u00eb partive t\u00eb tjera, si me: kryetarin e Partis\u00eb Republikane, z. Fatmir Mediu, me n\u00ebnkryetaren e Partis\u00eb s\u00eb Liris\u00eb, znj. Erisa Xhixho, dhe jemi t\u00eb nderuar q\u00eb edhe ju pranuat ftes\u00ebn ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Para se t\u00eb nisim bised\u00ebn, e cila do t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtohet, secili prej nesh do t\u00eb p\u00ebrcjell\u00eb nj\u00eb pyetje, ju prezantoj: z.Sk\u00ebnder Bu\u00e7papaj, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb presidenti i Unionit t\u00eb Gazetar\u00ebve Shqiptar\u00eb Profesionist\u00eb t\u00eb Diaspor\u00ebs nga Zvicra; z.Artan Kutra, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb zv. kryetar i unionit ton\u00eb, i cili lidhet nga Parisi, Franca.<\/p>\n

Jam un\u00eb (Alba Kepi), Sekretare e P\u00ebrgjithshme e unionit.<\/p>\n

Kemi edhe an\u00ebtar\u00ebt e tjer\u00eb t\u00eb bordit q\u00eb ka\u00ebn detyra t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme si, z\u00ebdh\u00ebn\u00ebsja jon\u00eb, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb znj. Rafaela Prifti, lidhet nga SHBA-t\u00eb; z.Ardian Murraj, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi, apo koordinatori, apo ai q\u00eb drejton kodin etik t\u00eb unionit ton\u00eb; z.Genc Burimi, i cili lidhet nga Parisi, Franc\u00eb, dhe znj.Elida Bu\u00e7papaj, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb ark\u00ebtarja e unionit ton\u00eb, e cila lidhet nga Zvicra.<\/p>\n

Ne, e nisim menj\u00ebher\u00eb me pyetjet tona. I p\u00ebrmbahemi edhe koh\u00ebs q\u00eb ju na keni premtuar, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb angazhimeve dhe impenjimeve tuaja t\u00eb pas k\u00ebtij takimi.<\/p>\n

E nisim menj\u00ebher\u00eb me pyetjen e b\u00ebr\u00eb nga kryetari i UGSHP t\u00eb Diaspor\u00ebs, z.Sk\u00ebnder Bu\u00e7papaj. P\u00ebr ju fjala, z.Sk\u00ebnder.<\/p>\n

Sk\u00ebnder Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0Z.Berisha, mir\u00ebsevjen n\u00eb bised\u00ebn ton\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi dhe emocion i ve\u00e7ant\u00eb.<\/p>\n

A mund t\u00eb thuhet se fal\u00eb rikthimit tuaj n\u00eb krye t\u00eb PD dhe opozit\u00ebs, p\u00ebrtej t\u00eb s\u00eb kaluar\u00ebs dhe pavar\u00ebsisht muges\u00ebs s\u00eb rezultateve bind\u00ebse, tashm\u00eb opozita \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb rolin e saj t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbushur shpresat e shqiptar\u00ebve.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit p\u00ebr pyetjen.<\/p>\n

Kjo, pyetje q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsore, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq, mund t\u00eb themi se Opozita n\u00eb kushtet e narko-shtetit \u00ebsht\u00eb reale n\u00eb kauz\u00ebn q\u00eb mbron, por \u00ebsht\u00eb fiktive n\u00eb rolin q\u00eb lot. P\u00ebr arsye se, narko-shteti, si pushtet i nj\u00eb personi, i mb\u00ebshtetur nga kartelet e drog\u00ebs, m\u00eb t\u00eb fuqishme se \u00e7do ministri, i mb\u00ebshtetur n\u00eb farsa elektorale dhe grabitjen e buxhetit dhe pasurive komb\u00ebtare.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb kontrollit t\u00eb rrept\u00eb mbi Drejt\u00ebsin\u00eb, n\u00eb fakt Opozita edhe ato pak z\u00ebra q\u00eb kan\u00eb mbetur n\u00eb media, nuk ka asnj\u00eb p\u00ebrfillje n\u00eb kuptimin e ndryshimit t\u00eb gj\u00ebrave.<\/p>\n

K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, dua t\u00eb jem realist me ju. Forca e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb e Opozit\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb ajo do t\u00eb mobilizoj\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt n\u00eb nj\u00eb l\u00ebvizje t\u00eb fuqishme popullore p\u00ebr p\u00ebmbysjen e k\u00ebtij regjimi.<\/p>\n

Narko-diktaturat, Sk\u00ebnder, nuk p\u00ebrmbysen me vot\u00eb, me farsa elektorale.<\/p>\n

Jo, absolutisht!<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrkundrazi, sot ka rezultate elektorale, si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb rrethi i Fierit, ku vota e diaspor\u00ebs arrin n\u00eb 92% p\u00ebr qeverin\u00eb. E gjitha me nj\u00eb proces t\u00eb shtet\u00ebzuar, plot\u00ebsisht.<\/p>\n

Mir\u00ebpo, v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsia \u00ebsht\u00eb jasht\u00ebzakonisht e madhe, sepse n\u00eb periudh\u00ebn kur ekzistonte diktatura komuniste kishte, sigurisht, v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsi shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha p\u00ebr opozitariz\u00ebm, por kishte nga ana tjet\u00ebr nj\u00eb qendrim t\u00eb prer\u00eb nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar ndaj tyre.<\/p>\n

Kurse, k\u00ebto narko-diktaturat, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq, jan\u00eb edhe\u00a0aimable<\/em>, jan\u00eb mjaft,\u00a0lovely one<\/em>, po t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorim terma t\u00eb tilla.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebr ne, \u00ebsht\u00eb dy her\u00eb m\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, sepse n\u00eb Europ\u00eb nuk ka patur kurr\u00eb narko-diktatur\u00eb. Ka patur \u00e7do form\u00eb ditkature tjet\u00ebr, por jo narko-diktatur\u00eb. Dhe kjo, kur i b\u00ebn shum\u00eb nga europian\u00ebt skeptik\u00eb ndaj k\u00ebtij kualifikimi.<\/p>\n

Ky, \u00ebsht\u00eb pak a shum\u00eb realiteti.<\/p>\n

Artan Kutra:\u00a0<\/strong>P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje z. Sali Berisha. \u00cbsht\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi t\u00eb komunikoj me ju.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrfitoj nga rasti t\u2019ju b\u00ebj nj\u00eb pyetje q\u00eb ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb me zgjedhjet e ardhshme lokale.<\/p>\n

Ndoshta, koleg\u00ebt e mi do t\u00eb ndalen shum\u00eb tek kodi zgjedhor, por un\u00eb do ta fokalizoj pyetjen time tek sensibilizimi q\u00eb ju, PD, ndoshta ju personalisht me kontaktet q\u00eb keni n\u00eb Per\u00ebndim.<\/p>\n

Si do t\u00eb veproni p\u00ebr t\u00eb sensibilizuar koleg\u00ebt tuaj t\u00eb Per\u00ebndimit p\u00ebr t\u2019ju th\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn.<\/p>\n

Sepse, ju keni deklaruar q\u00eb, n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebto zgjedhje t\u00eb deritanishme,\u00a0<\/strong>EdiRama ka manipuluar zgjedhjet. A do t\u00eb ndikoni juve p\u00ebr t\u00eb treguar t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn edhe n\u00eb Per\u00ebndim? Sepse, tashm\u00eb tek shqiptar\u00ebt ju e keni b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb ditur e keni sqaruar qart\u00eb, skemat e ndryshme t\u00eb manipulimit q\u00eb jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb nga, manipuluesit e Partis\u00eb Socialiste, po ju keni th\u00ebn\u00eb pik\u00ebrisht ka qen\u00eb koka e Edi Rama ai q\u00eb ka manipuluar. Por, me \u00e7far\u00eb m\u00ebnyra do t\u00eb sensibilizoni nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar\u00ebt q\u00eb edhe ata ta kuptojn\u00eb, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb se si \u00ebsht\u00eb arritur n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb koh\u00eb, sidomos p\u00ebr zgjedhjet e ardhshme lokale q\u00eb pritet t\u00eb organizohen n\u00eb vijim? Ndoshta koleg\u00ebt e mi, Alba do t\u00eb fokalizohet tek kodi zgjedhor, sepse k\u00ebshtu i kemi ndar\u00eb detyrat, por un\u00eb do t\u00eb ndalesha tek sensibilizimi q\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebni ju tek nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar\u00ebt, q\u00eb edhe ata ta\u00a0 kuptojn\u00eb manipulimin.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit p\u00ebr pyetjen, Artan.<\/p>\n

Ne kemi kaluar nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb, si asnj\u00eb forc\u00eb tjet\u00ebr politike, kur ne u izoluam universalisht se mbronim kauza t\u00eb drejta, kauza t\u00eb drejta p\u00ebr \u00e7do njeri t\u00eb lir\u00eb. Por, ajo periudh\u00eb mori fund. Pas p\u00ebrfundimit t\u00eb asaj periudhe, nga tetori gjer sot, jan\u00eb miratuar nga t\u00eb gjitha partit\u00eb e spektrit t\u00eb qendr\u00ebs s\u00eb djath\u00eb dhe t\u00eb djatht\u00eb, 5 rezoluta.<\/p>\n

Kat\u00ebr prej tyre para zgjedhjeve t\u00eb 11 majit, t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb nj\u00eb nekrologji n\u00eb paradh\u00ebnie e zgjedhjeve t\u00eb 11 majit. T\u00eb 4 rezolutat nj\u00ebra e CDI-s\u00eb, e Internacionales Demokrate t\u00eb Qendr\u00ebs, q\u00eb grupon mbi 108 parti. Tjetra e IDU-s\u00eb, q\u00eb grupon 87 parti t\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb bot\u00ebs, dhe dy rezoluta t\u00eb Partis\u00eb Popullore Europiane, e fundit vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb jav\u00eb para zgjedhjeve n\u00eb Valencia, p\u00ebr cilindo q\u00eb i lexon, jan\u00eb nekrologjia e nj\u00eb farse elektorale, e nj\u00eb procesi elektoral t\u00eb vdekur.<\/p>\n

Pas zgjedhjeve, u miratua dhe nj\u00eb rezolut\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, dhe kjo rezolut\u00eb u miratua nga CDI-ja, ku d\u00ebnohet narkoshteti, d\u00ebnohet farsa elektorale. Ne jemi p\u00ebrpjekur nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb pas zgjedhjeve, p\u00ebr t\u00eb paraqitur rastin, ndon\u00ebse duhet them q\u00eb raporti i v\u00ebzhguesve t\u00eb OSBE\/ODIHR-it dhe v\u00ebzhguesve t\u00eb tjer\u00eb paraprak\u00eb, de facto, i rr\u00ebzonte zgjedhjet. N\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb ai, q\u00eb n\u00eb tri rreshtat e par\u00eb i shpalli ato t\u00eb pabarabarta. Dhe parimi themelor i zgjedhjeve \u00ebsht\u00eb: barazia n\u00eb gar\u00eb.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrve\u00e7 k\u00ebsaj, rreshton shkeljen, dhunimin e parimeve t\u00eb tjera themelore t\u00eb zgjedhjeve.<\/p>\n

Por, nga ana tjet\u00ebr, qeveria ka b\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje t\u00eb jasht\u00ebzakonshme q\u00eb ky raport t\u00eb rr\u00ebzohe, q\u00eb ky raport t\u00eb mos q\u00ebndroj\u00eb n\u00eb variantin p\u00ebrfundimtar. Natyrisht, jo pa efekte.<\/p>\n

Duhet t\u00eb jemi realist k\u00ebtu se.<\/p>\n

Artan Kutra:\u00a0<\/strong>Po sigurisht, sigurisht\u2026<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Jan\u00eb disa faktor\u00eb. Jan\u00eb disa faktor\u00eb q\u00eb mbahet ky q\u00ebndrim ndaj narko-diktatur\u00ebs n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.\u00a0 S\u00eb pari, thash\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb faktor njohje, q\u00eb nuk njihet narkodiktatura n\u00eb Europ\u00eb, por ama, pasojat e saj jan\u00eb shum\u00eb evidente.<\/p>\n

S\u00eb dyti, jan\u00eb q\u00ebndrimet e tij klienteliste, i aft\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb \u00e7do gj\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb qendruar n\u00eb pushtet. Miklimi dhe joshja q\u00eb b\u00ebn ai p\u00ebr l\u00ebshimin e territorit, p\u00ebr t\u00eb pranuar emigrant\u00eb, nj\u00eblloj si n\u00eb marr\u00ebveshjen me Italin\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Po, t\u00eb jemi realist\u00eb se, ajo marr\u00ebveshje, i ka b\u00ebr\u00eb, sigurisht, nj\u00eb nder shum\u00eb t\u00eb madhe kryeministres italiane q\u00eb ka t\u00eb d\u00ebshmuar se, ajo n\u00eb dallim nga t\u00eb gjith\u00eb koleg\u00ebt e saj evropian\u00eb, ishte e aft\u00eb dhe e zonja, t\u00eb b\u00ebnte nj\u00eb zgjidhje, ose t\u00eb paraqiste nj\u00eb zgjidhje q\u00eb tani e d\u00ebshirojn\u00eb, dhe tani, pavar\u00ebsisht se \u00e7far\u00eb ndodh, por k\u00ebrkesat nuk jan\u00eb t\u00eb pakta p\u00ebr marr\u00ebveshje t\u00eb tilla.<\/p>\n

Pavar\u00ebsisht nga dominimi i ides\u00eb s\u00eb stabilokracis\u00eb, n\u00eb nj\u00eb koh\u00eb lufte n\u00eb Europ\u00eb, p\u00ebrs\u00ebri konstatojm\u00eb se, me paraqitjen ton\u00eb t\u00eb fakteve, dokumenteve n\u00eb K\u00ebshillin e Europ\u00ebs, n\u00eb Parlamentin Europian, dhe tani s\u00eb fundmi n\u00eb Asamblen\u00eb Parlamentare t\u00eb K\u00ebshillit t\u00eb Europ\u00ebs, ne kemi arritur, jo vet\u00ebm t\u00eb njohim, por n\u00eb nj\u00eb shkall\u00eb \u00a0t\u00eb madhe t\u00eb bindim aleat\u00ebt tan\u00eb, partner\u00ebt tan\u00eb se, Shqip\u00ebria nuk zhvilloi zgjedhje, dhe nuk zhvillon zgjedhje, por fars\u00eb elektorale.<\/p>\n

Lidhur me zgjedhjet lokale, ato do t\u00eb jen\u00eb thjesht nj\u00eb fars\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Un\u00eb e kam th\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb, n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrs\u00ebritur: me Edi Ram\u00ebn, zgjedhje nuk ka.<\/p>\n

Edi Rama shpalos \u00e7do dit\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb, mentalitetin dhe psikologjin\u00eb e t\u00eb atit t\u00eb tij biologjik dhe t\u00eb atit t\u00eb tij shpirt\u00ebror. Pa asnj\u00eb lloj hezitimi.<\/p>\n

Sot, e v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb dramatike. Por n\u00eb rast se merr, analizon pushtetet, t\u00eb garantoj q\u00eb, jan\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrqendruara n\u00eb duart e nj\u00eb njeriu, se sa ishin ato n\u00eb duart e Enver Hoxh\u00ebs. Nuk po them t\u00eb Ramiz Alis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Po u jap nj\u00eb shembull. Nj\u00eb nga k\u00ebto dit\u00eb shqyrtoja lejet e nd\u00ebrtimit t\u00eb dh\u00ebna n\u00eb fushat\u00eb elektorale.<\/p>\n

\u00c7far\u00eb gjeja aty?<\/p>\n

Gjeja leje nd\u00ebrtimi p\u00ebr sht\u00ebpi nj\u00ebkat\u00ebshe t\u00eb firmosur nga Edi Rama. N\u00eb nj\u00eb koh\u00eb kur, n\u00eb memorien time, n\u00eb diktatur\u00eb, n\u00eb fshat p\u00ebr t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtuar nj\u00eb sht\u00ebpi, lejen e merrje tek sekretari i lokalitetit ose komiteti ekzekutiv m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti. Pra, ky p\u00ebrqendrim total \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb kopje e st\u00ebr-ekzagjeruar e baballar\u00ebve t\u00eb vet. \u00a0Ose deklaratat e tij se, un\u00eb shkat\u00ebrrova LSI-n\u00eb, shkat\u00ebrrova me nj\u00eb mburrje t\u00eb madhe se shkat\u00ebrrova LSI-n\u00eb, duke burgosur Ilir Met\u00ebn etj., d\u00ebshmojn\u00eb urrejtjen e tij patologjike p\u00ebr pluralizmin.<\/p>\n

Artan Kutra:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit! Faleminderit p\u00ebr p\u00ebrgjigjen.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit, doktor! Faleminderit, Artan! Fjal\u00ebn e ka zonja Rafaela Prifti, e cila lidhet nga Shtetet e Bashkuara t\u00eb Amerik\u00ebs dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe z\u00ebdh\u00ebn\u00ebsja p\u00ebr mediat e unionit ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rafaela Prifti:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit Alba! P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje doktor, si je?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, Rafaela!<\/p>\n

Rafaela Prifti:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit! M\u00eb falni p\u00ebr problemet teknike, k\u00ebrkoj ndjes\u00eb. Pyetja ime: ju that\u00eb q\u00eb me Edi Ram\u00ebn nuk ka zgjedhje, po pyetja ime \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr zgjedhjet, n\u00ebse do t\u00eb rib\u00ebheshin, \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebnit ju ndryshe?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>S\u00eb pari, n\u00eb rast se do t\u00eb rib\u00ebheshin zgjedhjet, sigurisht q\u00eb , par\u00eb n\u00eb retrospektiv\u00eb, mund t\u00eb kishte ndryshime n\u00eb kandidatura, pa m\u00ebdyshje. Mund t\u00eb kishte angazhime m\u00eb t\u00eb gjera.<\/p>\n

Por, n\u00eb k\u00ebto zgjedhje, mund t\u00eb them se programi ka qen\u00eb m\u00eb i mir\u00eb se kurr\u00eb n\u00eb historin\u00eb e Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb. Ekspertiza p\u00ebr zgjedhjet, ka qen\u00eb ekspertiza e ekipit fitimtar t\u00eb zgjedhjeve n\u00eb Shtetet e Bashkuara.<\/p>\n

Edhe n\u00eb 2005, un\u00eb kam patur ekspertiz\u00ebn e fituesve t\u00eb zgjedhjeve presidenciale n\u00eb Shtetet e Bashkuara.<\/p>\n

Pse kjo?<\/p>\n

Sepse n\u00eb doktrin\u00ebn elektorale besohet se, fitimtar\u00ebt e zgjedhjeve presidenciale n\u00eb Shtetet Bashkuara jan\u00eb ekspert\u00ebt m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb elektoral. Pra, \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb pun\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe, por n\u00eb kushtet e fars\u00ebs elektorale, opozita nuk fiton zgjedhjet.<\/p>\n

Vota vdes pa hyr\u00eb n\u00eb kuti, pa r\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb kuti.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit, doktor. Faleminderit, Rafaela!<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Pra, ideja se mund t\u00eb fitojn\u00eb zgjedhjet n\u00eb narko-diktatur\u00eb apo n\u00eb kushtet e fars\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb iluzion naiv politik.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Mund t\u00eb marr\u00ebsh me shum\u00eb mandate, mund t\u00eb marr\u00ebsh pak m\u00eb pak. K\u00ebto jan\u00eb t\u00eb sigurta, po fitore jo. Ai ka marr\u00eb, ai merr \u00e7do mas\u00eb, sepse shkel \u00e7do parim. Un\u00eb do t\u2019ju rreshtoj nj\u00eb list\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb publike.<\/p>\n

Pagesat e 48% t\u00eb votuesve pensionist\u00eb, pra q\u00eb jan\u00eb pensionist\u00ebt, 100\u00a0 euro n\u00eb fushat\u00eb elektorale, e ndaluar kategorikisht me ligj. 500 milion\u00eb euro prokurime publike n\u00eb fushat\u00eb t\u00eb ndaluara me ligj. \u00a04.500 ngjarje t\u00eb brendshme dhe t\u00eb jashtme t\u00eb ndaluara me ligj, p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndikuar zgjedh\u00ebsit.<\/p>\n

Me mij\u00ebra e mij\u00ebra, pun\u00ebsimet e p\u00ebrkohshme t\u00eb ndaluara me ligj p\u00ebr vota, dhjet\u00ebra mij\u00ebra leje nd\u00ebrtimi, certifikata pron\u00ebsie dhe leje legalizimi p\u00ebr t\u00eb marr\u00eb vota. 29 mij\u00eb hektar\u00eb kanabis p\u00ebr mbjellje, nga 200 hektar\u00eb q\u00eb lejon ligji. P\u00ebrdorimi i t\u00eb gjitha dh\u00ebnave t\u00eb e-Albania, v\u00ebnia e patronazhist\u00ebve p\u00ebr t\u2019i p\u00ebrdorur p\u00ebr presion dhe p\u00ebr miklim. Pra, t\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebto mjaftojn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb vdekur, p\u00ebr t\u00eb shkaktuar nj\u00eb proces elektoral n\u00eb fars\u00eb, \u00e7far\u00ebdo q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebsh ti, \u00e7far\u00eb do q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebsh ti.<\/p>\n

Sepse, t\u00eb del n\u00eb fush\u00eb nj\u00eb shtet me t\u00eb gjith\u00eb potencialet e tij financiare, njer\u00ebzore, vendimarr\u00ebse, ekzekutive, logjistike, ndaj nj\u00eb force politike apo forcave politike q\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb as 1\/10 e k\u00ebtyre potencialeve, 1\/100-qind\u00ebn e k\u00ebtyre.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit, doktor! Tani fjal\u00ebn e ka zoti Genc Burimi, gazetar q\u00eb lidhet nga Parisi, Franca.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, doktor! T\u00eb gjith\u00ebve, po ashtu. Sepse, jemi larg dhe shpesh nuk shihemi. Shiko, doktor, ne kishim nj\u00eb program, secili nga nj\u00eb pyetje kisha b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb pyetje t\u00eb gjat\u00eb. Por un\u00eb nuk e di, jam shpesh, jam shum\u00eb spontan me njihni dhe, kur d\u00ebgjoja pyetjen \u00a0paraardh\u00ebse m\u00eb shkoi mendja ke pyetja e t\u00eb tjer\u00ebve, dhe do m\u00eb falni t\u00eb gjtih\u00eb, t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim sa m\u00eb t\u00eb shpejt, t\u00eb shkurt\u00ebr, q\u00eb mos abuzoj edhe un\u00eb me koh\u00ebn e shok\u00ebve. Pra, Rafaela ju b\u00ebri nj\u00eb pyetje: \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebnit ndryshe, n\u00ebse do b\u00ebheshin prap\u00eb zgjedhjet? Un\u00eb e kuptova pyetjen, se \u00e7ka do b\u00ebnit ndryshe, si program? Po qenkam un\u00eb gabim. Por juve e dhat\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjen shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, dhe n\u00eb baz\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjes q\u00eb i dhat\u00eb juve. Dhe t\u00eb pyetjes q\u00eb kuptova un\u00eb, do t\u2019ju b\u00ebj dy pyetje, plus ato q\u00eb kisha parashikuar para. Do t\u00eb m\u00eb fal\u00ebsh Alba, por i kam m\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb shkurtra.<\/p>\n

E para, ju thoni se, \u00e7do gj\u00eb q\u00eb b\u00ebsh me Edi Ram\u00ebn nuk ka zgjedhje. At\u00ebher\u00eb, kjo a e shfaj\u00ebson n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e m\u00ebparshme Lulzim Bash\u00ebn, sepse dhe atij i jan\u00eb vendosur zgjedhjet.<\/p>\n

Pyetja e dyt\u00eb. N\u00ebse vini n\u00eb pushtet, a keni ndonj\u00eb regres, pra, nj\u00eb keqardhje nga nj\u00eb baz\u00eb legjislative legale q\u00eb i keni l\u00ebn\u00eb Edi Ram\u00ebs dhe q\u00eb ka abuzuar?<\/p>\n

Po marr dy shembuj, koncesionet dhe Shqip\u00ebria 1 euro. T\u00eb dyja ishin n\u00eb regjistrat tuaja, q\u00eb m\u00eb von\u00eb i pam\u00eb se si i shnd\u00ebrroi Edi Rama, se si manipuloi dhe se si i shfryt\u00ebzoi p\u00ebr veten e tij. Pra, a keni keqardhje p\u00ebr k\u00ebto dy gj\u00ebra? \u00a0Dhe \u00ebn t\u00eb ardhmen, a mund t\u00eb mendonit po ashtu, edhe lidhjet, t\u00eb cilat m\u00eb pas mund t\u00eb abuzoheshin nga pasardh\u00ebsit tuaj?<\/p>\n

Dhe pyetja e tret\u00eb, po e them me dy fjal\u00eb: Keni shkuar kudo, q\u00eb kur keni ardhur n\u00eb fuqi n\u00eb PD, para q\u00eb nga fundi i izolimit n\u00eb vitin e kaluar, i keni dh\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb dinamiz\u00ebm t\u00eb pashoq politikes s\u00eb jashtme, me amerikan\u00ebt, n\u00eb Bruksel, keni shkuar n\u00eb Spanj\u00eb, n\u00eb Portugali, n\u00eb Strasburg, n\u00eb Itali, kudo n\u00eb Gjermani. Vet\u00ebm me Franc\u00ebn, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb heshtje absolute. Si shpjegoni k\u00ebt\u00eb? Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb, Franca \u00ebsht\u00eb vendi kryesor politikisht me Evrop\u00eb dhe ju n\u00eb Franc\u00eb jeni i formuar.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit Genci, dhe e vler\u00ebsoj shum\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb kontributin t\u00ebnd q\u00eb jep.<\/p>\n

S\u00eb pari, Lulzim Basha. N\u00eb rast se kthehemi bashk\u00eb n\u00eb prill t\u00eb vitit 2021, dy dit\u00eb pas zgjedhjeve, un\u00eb kam publikuar nj\u00eb artikull me titull: \u2018Vota vdiq pa r\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb kuti\u2019. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00ebndrimi im p\u00ebr ato zgjedhje, dhe nuk e b\u00ebja kurr\u00eb at\u00eb n\u00ebse nuk kisha bindje t\u00eb plot\u00eb n\u00eb argumente.<\/p>\n

\u00c7far\u00eb b\u00ebri Lulzim Basha? Tani ta them t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn ty. Lulzim Basha kishte hyr\u00eb n\u00eb loj\u00ebra tjera, Genc, dhe e thirra dhe i thash\u00eb tani. Raporti paraprak i zgjedhjeve ishte objektiv. Tani, i thash\u00eb un\u00eb, detyra m\u00eb kryesore \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb mbrojm\u00eb, t\u00eb denoncojm\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb fars\u00eb q\u00eb ndodhi. Dhe un\u00eb t\u00eb garantoj q\u00eb ishte fars\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Lulzim Basha, meqen\u00ebse kishte hyr\u00eb n\u00eb uj\u00ebra t\u00eb tjera, n\u00eb vend q\u00eb t\u00eb merrej me k\u00ebt\u00eb, dhe i tregova t\u00eb gjith\u00eb rrug\u00ebn q\u00eb un\u00eb e kisha p\u00ebrshkruar n\u00eb vitin 2001, dhe jo pa sukses, \u00e7\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta, ai hapi zgjedhjet n\u00eb parti, dhe i injoroi komplet. Dhe t\u00eb them un\u00eb ty, q\u00eb d\u00ebrgoi nj\u00eb raport t\u00eb vetit, PD-ja, t\u00eb turpsh\u00ebm, vet\u00ebm 3-4 dit\u00eb para se t\u00eb dal\u00eb raporti p\u00ebrfundimtar, pra nj\u00eb raport q\u00eb nuk e lexoi asnj\u00ebri. Nuk shkoi as kurr\u00ebkund, nuk ngriti asnj\u00eb z\u00eb, hapi procesin brenda n\u00eb parti.<\/p>\n

Dhe n\u00eb at\u00eb shkrim un\u00eb, dua t\u00eb jem i sinqert\u00eb, u shpreha se fillimisht duhet nj\u00eb denoncim i madh nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar, duhet t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsohej bota se \u00e7far\u00eb ndodhi n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri dhe pastaj t\u00eb b\u00ebhet analiza. Padiskutim, nuk isha aspak kund\u00ebr. Pra, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se kjo do ishte b\u00ebr\u00eb at\u00eb vit, ndofta, ndofta, zhvillimet nuk do t\u00eb kishin qen\u00eb t\u00eb tilla m\u00eb von\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Ju ishit non grata, doktor.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Jo, prit, ai u mor vet\u00ebm me k\u00ebt\u00eb pun\u00eb. Ai \u00ebsht\u00eb marr\u00eb bashk\u00eb me Edi Ram\u00ebn me k\u00ebt\u00eb pun\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Po thoni ndoshta, \u00a0s;do ndodhte k\u00ebshtu ose ndodhte ashtu, sepse ishte e shkruar.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, ai \u00ebsht\u00eb marr\u00eb vet\u00eb me non grat\u00ebn, bashk\u00eb me Edi Ram\u00ebn. \u00a0Pra, ai nuk zgjodhi rrug\u00ebn t\u00eb mbroj\u00eb vot\u00ebn e shqiptar\u00ebve, po rrug\u00ebn e nj\u00eb koalicioni me Edi Ram\u00ebn. Ai po shkonte n\u00eb koalicion t\u00eb gjer\u00eb me Edi Ram\u00ebn, gj\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebn un\u00eb e quaja nj\u00eb fatalitet t\u00eb madh p\u00ebr vendin.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>P\u00ebr dy ligjet, p\u00ebr koncesionet edhe p\u00ebr Shqip\u00ebria 1 euro.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Shqip\u00ebria 1 euro dhe koncesionet. Genc, ja ku i ke ti, t\u00eb gjitha koncesionet e mia dhe 1 euro, q\u00eb un\u00eb kam dh\u00ebn\u00eb. Asnj\u00ebra prej tyre nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb gjetur se ka d\u00ebmtuar p\u00ebrkundrazi. Jo, koncesionet jan\u00eb nj\u00eb praktik\u00eb bot\u00ebrore.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Edhe lundrimi \u00ebsht\u00eb praktik\u00eb bot\u00ebrore, lundrimi. Por n\u00eb 2005, ju e pat\u00ebt kuraj\u00ebn t\u00eb b\u00ebnit nj\u00eb moratorium q\u00eb ndalonte lundrimin p\u00ebr 3 vjet.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, dakord, po varet se si p\u00ebrdor ligjin. N\u00eb qoft\u00eb se, ti ligjin e zbaton me rigorozitet, p\u00ebr shembull, po t\u00eb them nj\u00eb gj\u00eb. Ne kemi dh\u00ebn\u00eb koncesione 400 e ca hidrocentrale, po q\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha pas 25-30 vitesh kthen n\u00eb pron\u00eb publike shqiptare, sipas afateve.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrndryshe, ato uj\u00ebra kalonin t\u00eb gjitha pa vler\u00eb n\u00eb det. Pra, un\u00eb nuk jam kund\u00ebr koncesioneve. Un\u00eb jam pro koncesioneve n\u00eb interesin m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb publik, me fee-n\u00eb ( taks\u00ebn) koncesionare, \u00a0q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ken\u00eb fee-n\u00eb (tak\u00ebsn) koncesionare, t\u00eb derdhin para \u00e7do vit n\u00eb buxhetin e shtetit.<\/p>\n

Shqip\u00ebria 1 euro. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb asnj\u00eb resort turistik p\u00ebr 1 euro. Jo, asnj\u00eb, as dhe nj\u00eb i vet\u00ebm. Shqip\u00ebria 1 euro kishte kuptim, investime t\u00eb m\u00ebdha, t\u00eb cilat mund t\u00eb krijonin mij\u00ebra vende pune, mund t\u00eb sillnin teknologji t\u00eb larta. Pra, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb abuzivitet i plot\u00eb i Edi Ram\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Dhe nj\u00eb gj\u00eb. Ne, u p\u00ebrpoq\u00ebm ta sjellim Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb n\u00eb hart\u00ebn e investimeve tuaja. E v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb, po t\u00eb hiqej Banka e Kursimeve q\u00eb ishte privatizuar, investimet e huaja n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri ishin gjith\u00ebsej 70 milion\u00eb euro.<\/p>\n

Ato arrit\u00ebn, nga viti 2008 n\u00eb vazhdim, n\u00eb mbi 1 miliard, sepse duheshin t\u00ebrhequr. A mund t\u00eb ndalosh hajdutin? B\u00ebj \u00e7\u2019t\u00eb duash, Genc. Hajduti e ka s\u00ebmundje, sepse ai zbaton ligjet si t\u00eb vjedh vet\u00eb, si t\u00eb vjedh\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>Po s\u2019mund ta ndalosh, po mund t\u00eb parashikosh nj\u00eb kuad\u00ebr ligjor, q\u00eb nes\u00ebr kur ju mos jeni prap\u00eb n\u00eb pushtet, mund t\u00eb vij\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, qoft\u00eb edhe nj\u00eb Hitler, se mund t\u00eb kufizohet doktor.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0A do t\u00eb jap nj\u00eb shembull tjet\u00ebr? Kur erdh\u00ebm n\u00eb pushtet n\u00eb 2005, nj\u00eb ekspert i shquar amerikani i luft\u00ebs kund\u00ebr korrupsionit, m\u00eb thot\u00eb: \u2018Zoti Berisha, do ta b\u00ebj, i them un\u00eb. Un\u00eb e mora p\u00ebr at\u00eb pun\u00eb, p\u00ebr ekspertiz\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Thot\u00eb: \u2018Je i gatsh\u00ebm ti t\u00eb heq\u00ebsh ministrat si kryetar\u00eb t\u00eb autoriteteve kontraktuese?\u2019<\/p>\n

\u2018Po\u2019, mo i thash\u00eb un\u00eb, \u2018menj\u00ebher\u00eb\u2019.<\/p>\n

Si kusht p\u00ebr t\u00eb luftuar korrupsionin? Dhe un\u00eb, mora ligjin, e \u00e7ova n\u00eb Parlament, hoqa ministrat, ndalova me ligj ministrat q\u00eb t\u00eb mos jen\u00eb kryetar\u00eb t\u00eb autoriteteve kontraktuese. Kjo, sigurisht nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se, kjo e ndaloi korrupsionin. Po kjo nuk krijoi kurr\u00eb vepra si djeg\u00ebsat 400 milion\u00eb euro q\u00eb s\u2019ekziston nj\u00eb gjurm\u00eb m\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Nuk lejoi kurr\u00eb, t\u00eb ndodhin Alabar\u00ebt, t\u00eb vin\u00eb Alabar\u00ebt n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Nuk lejoi krijoi kurr\u00eb nj\u00eb seri pseudo-investimesh, apo nd\u00ebrtime rrug\u00ebsh brenda 3-5 muajve. Pra, pati nj\u00eb efekt krejt\u00ebsisht tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Po thua se, Bankers nuk ka paguar taksa, n\u00ebn hund\u00ebn tuaj.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Tani, po t\u00eb them pra. Gjat\u00eb qeverisjes s\u00eb m\u00ebparshme, nuk p\u00ebrgjigjem p\u00ebr qeverisjen e socialist\u00ebve. Bankers ka paguar miliarda taksa dhe ato jan\u00eb vet\u00ebm shpifje. Bankers, ta dish, qeveria q\u00eb drejtoja i vendosi rent\u00ebn 10%, dhe p\u00ebr hir t\u00eb s\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebs, se nuk ishte kontrat\u00eb e jona Bankers, ishte e qeveris\u00eb s\u00eb m\u00ebparshme, por p\u00ebr hir t\u00eb s\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebs, kishte nj\u00eb klauzol\u00eb kontrata, e cila nuk lejonte ndryshimet e saj pa ujdin\u00eb e t\u00eb dyja pal\u00ebve.<\/p>\n

K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, ne me insistim arrit\u00ebm t\u00eb shtojm\u00eb rent\u00ebn 10 p\u00ebr qind n\u00eb kontrat\u00eb me Bankers-in. \u00c7far\u00eb kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebta mbrapa, un\u00eb nuk e di. Po, them, kemi pasur nj\u00eb problem p\u00ebr taks\u00ebn e karbonit dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb detyruar ta paguaj\u00eb 20 milion\u00eb euro taks\u00eb karboni.<\/p>\n

Kemi pasur nj\u00eb dyshim p\u00ebr transferim \u00e7mimi. Kemi hetuar dhe nuk e kemi gjetur evident, por Bankers, e cila asokohe ka qen\u00eb kompani publike kanadeze e listuar n\u00eb burs\u00eb. Po e v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb, ta them k\u00ebtu tani se ajo shkeli shum\u00eb interesa n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb, t\u00eb mafies q\u00eb nuk u nuk pranoi t\u00eb b\u00ebhej ortak me t\u00eb tjer\u00eb e tjer\u00eb me rradh\u00eb.<\/p>\n

\u00c7far\u00eb ka ndodhur pas 2013-t\u00eb nuk kam asnj\u00eb ide. P\u00ebr periudh\u00ebn, ajo ka pagur t\u00eb gjitha, t\u00eb gjitha miliona mos miliarda taksa. K\u00ebshtu \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>N\u00eb p\u00ebrfundim me Franc\u00ebn. Pse ky hendek kaq i madh me Franc\u00ebn, doktor?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, jo, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb hendek, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb hendek vet\u00ebm \u00e7\u00ebshtje kohe. Se fillimisht, ne jemi marr\u00eb me instruksionet q\u00eb merren direkt me zgjedhjet. Tani, ne do merremi me qeverit\u00eb e vendeve partnere p\u00ebr t\u00eb paraqitur, pasi t\u00eb kemi raportin p\u00ebrfundimtar n\u00eb dor\u00eb, ne do t\u00eb paraqesim rastin e t\u00eb gjitha ministrit\u00eb e Jashtme dhe parlamentet e vendeve an\u00ebtare t\u00eb Bashkimit Europian. Franca, sigurisht, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb vend kryesor dhe, do t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb \u00e7do gj\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb informacion sa m\u00eb t\u00eb plot\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndryshuar t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetat sa m\u00eb t\u00eb plota.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>Pa harruar mediat? Kaq, mbaroj.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Keni shum\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb. Faleminderit!<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Un\u00eb i ftoj koleg\u00ebt. Mbase mbarojm\u00eb nj\u00eb pyetje t\u00eb gjith\u00eb mund t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb edhe nga nj\u00eb pyetje shtes\u00eb, n\u00ebse kemi ende disa gj\u00ebra p\u00ebr t\u00eb qart\u00ebsuar. B\u00ebj vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb note (sh\u00ebnim) n\u00eb at\u00eb mendimin tim, q\u00eb m\u00eb ngacmoi kjo pyetje ajo t\u00eb Genc. Flasim p\u00ebr dy periudha me nj\u00eb koh\u00eb diference dy dekada, pra 2005-2025. N\u00eb 2005, Shqip\u00ebria kishte jetike nj\u00eb strategji investimesh t\u00eb huaja, qoft\u00eb p\u00ebr zhvillimin ekonomik dhe qoft\u00eb p\u00ebrqasje n\u00eb tregun nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar. N\u00eb 2025, \u00ebsht\u00eb e pamundur t\u00eb b\u00ebsh nj\u00eb krahasim till\u00eb, duke pasur parasysh abuzimin dhe manipulimin q\u00eb b\u00ebri me k\u00ebt\u00eb ligj Rama, duke e shfryt\u00ebzuar p\u00ebr partneritet investitor strategjik, nepotiz\u00ebm politik, edhe gjith\u00e7ka tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb ne e kemi dokumentuar dhe e analizojm\u00eb sa her\u00eb dhe me pun\u00ebn ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>Gjerman\u00ebt ishin demokraci e madhe, para Hitlerit. Dhe gjerman\u00ebt s\u2019kishin menduar kurr\u00eb q\u00eb mund t\u00eb vinte nj\u00eb person q\u00eb mund t\u00eb vinte n\u00eb pik\u00ebpyetje rendi kushtues. Dhe kur e rib\u00ebn\u00eb Kushtetut\u00ebn gjerman\u00ebt vun\u00eb nj\u00eb ligj q\u00eb: Ndryshimi i k\u00ebtij rendi nuk mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet m\u00eb kurr\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pak. Ti me mendosh mbrapa pasojat e k\u00ebtij lloji. Berisha b\u00ebri dy ligje q\u00eb ishin t\u00eb vlefshme, q\u00eb ishin koncensiont dhe Shqip\u00ebria p\u00ebr 1 euro. Dhe sot, me koncesionet, ky po e jep Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb, po e jep ky, ky sot badiahava. Dhe prandaj un\u00eb them q\u00eb m\u00eb von\u00eb kur t\u00eb ardhmen duhet t\u00eb mendojn\u00eb, t\u00eb mendojn\u00eb edhe p\u00ebr pasojat, p\u00ebr dit\u00ebn kur ligji b\u00ebhet sot, mund t\u00eb keqp\u00ebrdoret nes\u00ebr. E kuptoj Berish\u00ebn, ai kjo e ka n\u00eb kok\u00eb p\u00ebr ta b\u00ebr\u00eb, do e b\u00ebj\u00eb, por sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb qoft\u00eb e mundur t\u00eb limitohen d\u00ebmet n\u00eb duart, ku i jep nj\u00eb loj\u00eb t\u00eb kaq bukur n\u00eb dor\u00eb, nj\u00eb uzurpatori q\u00eb mund t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb hatan\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Ia jap fjal\u00ebn zonj\u00ebs Elida Bu\u00e7papaj, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb nism\u00ebtarja e bashkimit ton\u00eb q\u00eb nga 2021-shi dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb ark\u00ebtare e Unionit t\u00eb Gazetar\u00ebve Shqiptar Profesionist\u00eb Diaspor\u00ebs. Elida lidhet nga Zvicra.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, profesor!<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, Elida!<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:\u00a0<\/strong>Jemi takuar n\u00eb Strasburg, p\u00ebr t\u00eb fundit her\u00eb, kur Shqip\u00ebria u pjes\u00ebtare e NATO-s, dhe kemi k\u00ebt\u00eb rastin sot, mbas 17 vjet\u00ebsh, n\u00eb nj\u00eb koh\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb trishtueshme p\u00ebr pluralizmin shqiptar edhe p\u00ebr interesat komb\u00ebtare t\u00eb kombit ton\u00eb. Jam shum\u00eb dakord me ato q\u00eb ndani ju rreth situat\u00ebs q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, ku vota \u00a0e lir\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb komplet n\u00eb dor\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00eb njeriu, i cili ka instrumentalizuar gjith\u00eb shtetin dhe tani rrezikon t\u2019i instrumentalizoj\u00eb edhe opozit\u00ebn. Ju jeni nj\u00eb z\u00eb shum\u00eb i fuqish\u00ebm opozitar dhe nuk themi q\u00eb jeni i vetmi. Keni edhe ndonj\u00eb koleg, p\u00ebrmend k\u00ebtu zotin Fatmir Mediu edhe ju jeni n\u00eb qend\u00ebr, n\u00eb qend\u00ebr t\u00eb propagand\u00ebs s\u00eb shtetit shqiptar. Anatemoheni, sepse ju paraqisni rrezikshm\u00ebri p\u00ebr qeverin\u00eb aktuale, p\u00ebr kryeministrin.<\/p>\n

Nd\u00ebrsa opozita, nuk e paraqit k\u00ebt\u00eb rrezik p\u00ebr te. Un\u00eb kam shum\u00eb pyetje p\u00ebr t\u2019ju b\u00ebr\u00eb, sepse e till\u00eb situat\u00eb, por do t\u00eb mjaftoj\u00eb me disa q\u00eb i kam, q\u00eb i kam menduar edhe si edhe si m\u00ebnyr\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb dal\u00eb n\u00eb mbrojtje t\u00eb vot\u00ebs s\u00eb lir\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Un\u00eb dua t\u00eb them se, di\u00e7ka pozitive q\u00eb pat\u00ebn k\u00ebto zgjedhjet \u00ebsht\u00eb se, me gjith\u00eb manipulimin q\u00eb u b\u00eb, vjedhja e vot\u00ebs dhe t\u00eb gjitha p\u00ebrs\u00ebri, n\u00eb qof\u00eb se do num\u00ebrojm\u00eb vot\u00ebn e mazhoranc\u00ebs me opozit\u00ebn dhe partit\u00eb e tjera q\u00eb mor\u00ebn pjes\u00eb, del se ishin kuazi t\u00eb barabarta.<\/p>\n

Pra kishte mund\u00ebsi edhe p\u00ebr nj\u00eb fitore, me gjith\u00eb kushtet tmerr\u00ebsisht t\u00eb v\u00ebshtira dhe tmerr\u00ebsisht t\u00eb pamundura. Pra, gjithsesi duhet themi q\u00eb meq\u00eb shpresa vdes e fundit, mendojm\u00eb q\u00eb ka shpres\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu ne, \u00e7far\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb? Duhet t\u00eb gjejm\u00eb m\u00ebnyra sesi ta shp\u00ebtojm\u00eb vot\u00ebn e lir\u00eb. Un\u00eb po paraqes k\u00ebto pyetje t\u00eb mia q\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb q\u00ebllim, q\u00eb kan\u00eb q\u00ebllim p\u00ebr, p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb sinjal ose nj\u00eb ndihm\u00eb apo di\u00e7ka.<\/p>\n

Po e nis nga pyetja e par\u00eb. Duke iu referuar rekomandimeve kryesore t\u00eb OSBE\/ODIHR-it, pas k\u00ebtyre zgjedhjeve, nj\u00eb nga t\u00eb cilat \u00ebsht\u00eb mbrojtja dhe pavar\u00ebsia e mediave, q\u00eb aktualisht \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00ebsisht e kompromentuar. Un\u00eb po kthehem pas n\u00eb koh\u00eb, n\u00eb vitin 2013, kur Edi Rama i fitoi zgjedhjet dhe deklaroi n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb bujshme se, ai do ta fuste gjuh\u00ebn shqipe n\u00eb Google AdSense.<\/p>\n

At\u00ebher\u00eb, kishte krijuar edhe Ministrin\u00eb e Informacionit dhe Informacionit, kishte at\u00eb kush\u00ebrir\u00ebn e vet atje. Nejse, edhe kjo gj\u00eb u prit me entuziaz\u00ebm. Kaloi mandati i par\u00eb, kaloi mandati i dyt\u00eb, kaloi mandati i tret\u00eb. Kjo ishte nj\u00eb iluzion edhe nj\u00eb, ose nj\u00eb rren\u00eb, shqip. Futja e gjuh\u00ebs shqipe n\u00eb Google AdSense \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr fjal\u00ebn e lir\u00eb, p\u00ebr shtypin e lir\u00eb, p\u00ebr pavar\u00ebsin\u00eb e gazetar\u00ebve nga politika, edhe do t\u00eb ishte e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb nj\u00eb ndihm\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe dhe do t\u00eb jet\u00eb v\u00ebrtet nj\u00eb ndihm\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe edhe n\u00eb t\u00eb ardhmen q\u00eb na pret, sepse gazetaria si pushtet i kat\u00ebrt mund ta edukoj\u00eb politik\u00ebn, edhe mund t\u00eb mund t\u00eb mund t\u00eb ngrej\u00eb alarmizma, pasi nuk do t\u00eb jet\u00eb e varur p\u00ebr buk\u00ebn e goj\u00ebs nga politika.<\/p>\n

N\u00eb ndihm\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj, presidentja Vjosa Osmani, n\u00eb takimin q\u00eb u b\u00eb p\u00ebr inteligjenc\u00ebn artificiale n\u00eb Paris n\u00eb fillim t\u00eb k\u00ebtij viti, takoi CEO-n e Google dhe tha q\u00eb ju po e penalizoni gjuh\u00ebn shqipe dhe nuk po e fusni edhe i b\u00ebri thirrje q\u00eb t\u00eb futet sa m\u00eb shpejt gjuha shqipe n\u00eb Google AdSense dhe Google Ad. T\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn, n\u00eb k\u00ebto 12 vjet, nuk e kam d\u00ebgjuar asnj\u00ebher\u00eb opozit\u00ebn q\u00eb t\u00eb ngrej\u00eb shqet\u00ebsimin.\u00a0 Kur them opizit\u00ebn, jo vet\u00ebm ju, se ju keni plot halle dhe plot probleme dhe ngrini plot, plot probleme aty.<\/p>\n

K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt \u00e7far\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb? Ju e b\u00ebni dhe ata rrin\u00eb n\u00ebn hije. Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, nuk e kam d\u00ebgjuar asnj\u00ebher\u00eb nj\u00eb iniciativ\u00eb t\u00eb opozit\u00ebs q\u00eb ta ngrej\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb problem q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb kaq i r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm p\u00ebr demokracin\u00eb e vendit, p\u00ebr interesat komb\u00ebtare dhe p\u00ebr mbrojtjen e vot\u00ebs s\u00eb lir\u00eb. Kjo mund t\u00eb kthehet n\u00eb nj\u00eb kauz\u00eb, nj\u00eb kauz\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb, q\u00eb mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshij\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha nivelet, nivele, q\u00eb nga q\u00eb nga nx\u00ebn\u00ebsit e gjimnazeve deri n\u00eb nivelet universitare. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb kauz\u00eb shum\u00eb, shum\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme, sepse ndihmon pavar\u00ebsin\u00eb e individit, dhe mbron gazetarin\u00eb.<\/p>\n

A ka ndonj\u00eb plan Partia Demokratike? A ka ndonj\u00eb strategji?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00c7\u00ebshtja e mediave \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje themelore. Ju keni shum\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb, Elida. Ju, nuk mund t\u00eb imagjinoni, se jeni jasht\u00eb, se n\u00eb \u00e7\u2019shkall\u00eb arrim k\u00ebtu indoktrinimi n\u00ebp\u00ebrmjet kontrollit t\u00eb mediave. Indoktrinimi q\u00eb synon falsifikimin e historis\u00eb recente, jo vet\u00ebm t\u00eb shkuar\u00ebs, por edhe t\u00eb historis\u00eb para 10-15 viteve.<\/p>\n

Mir\u00ebpo, kur 90% e hap\u00ebsir\u00ebs informative dominohet vet\u00ebm nga mediat e mashtrimit, q\u00eb mashtrojn\u00eb, manipulojn\u00eb, dhe q\u00eb zgjedhin p\u00ebr tema debati \u00e7do dark\u00eb n\u00eb studiot e tyre, ato q\u00eb u dikton zyra e Kryeministrit \u00a0dhe ajo q\u00eb u intereson atyre. Kjo p\u00ebrb\u00ebn nj\u00eb problem shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00eb p\u00ebr ne. Dhe sigurisht, ne duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb \u00e7do p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb \u00e7ar\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb lloj censure, e cila, t\u00eb siguroj, q\u00eb ngjet shum\u00eb, n\u00eb shum\u00eb aspekte me at\u00eb t\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u00eb diktatur\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Jan\u00eb vet\u00ebm 10% e hap\u00ebsir\u00ebs informative q\u00eb mbulohet nga portalet n\u00eb ndonj\u00eb media t\u00eb opozit\u00ebs q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e hapur. Ajo q\u00eb ju thoni p\u00ebr t\u00eb k\u00ebrkuar q\u00eb shqipja t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb gjuh\u00eb dhe n\u00eb Google, \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e dobishme p\u00ebr ne dhe p\u00ebr vendin ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Sa do ta realizojm\u00eb ne dhe sa kjo organizat\u00eb, kjo sip\u00ebrmarrje \u00ebsht\u00eb e gatshme t\u00eb marr\u00eb para sysh k\u00ebrkesat e opozit\u00ebs, k\u00ebt\u00eb nuk mund ta them. Mbasi qeveria, sigurisht, nuk e do k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb. Qeveria do t\u00eb mbaj\u00eb mbi sip\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb sa\u00e7 t\u00eb kontrollit t\u00eb hap\u00ebsir\u00ebs informative.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0A e keni mbaruar, profesor?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Po.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:\u00a0<\/strong>Pyetja e dyt\u00eb. N\u00eb majin e vitit 2022, kur u rizgjodh\u00ebt kryetar i Partis\u00eb Demokratike dhe ishit kryetar i opozit\u00ebs dhe kandidat p\u00ebr kryeminist\u00ebr, deklaruat se do t\u00eb qeverisnit mandatin e tret\u00eb me ekipin q\u00eb kishte qeverisur dy mandatet e para, ekip q\u00eb ju \u00e7oi n\u00eb humbje n\u00eb 2013, megjith\u00eb sukseset e jasht\u00ebzakonshme q\u00eb ju kishit arritur, sepse ishte b\u00ebr\u00eb liberalizimi i vizave, an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimi n\u00eb NATO, nd\u00ebrtimi i Rrug\u00ebs s\u00eb Kombit dhe hapja e tunelit t\u00eb Krrab\u00ebs. Pra, me k\u00ebto arritje, PD duhet ta kishte fitoren n\u00eb xhep. Tani ju humb\u00ebt zgjedhjet.<\/p>\n

Deklaruat se do t\u00eb vinit me t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin ekip. Po ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb ekip, q\u00eb un\u00eb m\u00eb lejoni ta quaj \u2018establishment\u2019, sepse n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb establishmet b\u00ebnte pjes\u00eb edhe Lulzim Basha, q\u00eb ju e dini se \u00e7far\u00eb roli kishte dhe ju e di se \u00e7far\u00eb rezultati mori kur krijoi partin\u00eb Euroatlantike. Ky establishment, profesor, mban nj\u00eb pozicion p\u00ebrjashtues ndaj simpatizant\u00ebve, ndaj personaliteteve. K\u00ebt\u00eb e them si, nj\u00eb veterane e mediave dhe si nj\u00eb person q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb n\u00eb kontakt dhe nuk kam asnj\u00eb interes personale. I kam t\u00eb zgjidhura problemet e mmia personale, 30 vjet.\u00a0 K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, ky establishment \u00ebsht\u00eb apatik\u00eb, p\u00ebrjashtues dhe komplet n\u00ebn hijen tuaj. Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, mjaftohet me opozitarizmin tuaj dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb i gatsh\u00ebm q\u00eb n\u00eb rastin e par\u00eb t\u00eb shitet.<\/p>\n

I kemi par\u00eb kur Luli b\u00ebri p\u00ebrjashtimet, dhe ata krijuan partit\u00eb dhe si dol\u00ebn ata. \u00c7far\u00eb strategjie keni? Sepse me k\u00ebta njer\u00ebz, nuk mund t\u00eb \u00ebnd\u00ebrroj\u00eb njeriu p\u00ebr fitore. Jan\u00eb zem\u00ebrngusht\u00eb, nuk d\u00ebshirojn\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb fitoj\u00eb PD, sepse k\u00ebnaqen me rehatin\u00eb e tyre. Ata e din\u00eb q\u00eb Rama n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment t\u00eb caktuar do t\u00eb ju ofroj\u00eb di\u00e7ka, edhe ata do t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqen, dhe do t\u2019ju l\u00ebn\u00eb prap juve n\u00eb balt\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Nuk b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb jet\u00eb i nj\u00ebjti ekip. N\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb. Nuk e di si ma kan\u00eb interpretuar deklarat\u00ebn. Por ideja se mund t\u00eb kisha t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin ekip pas vitit 2022, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb ide jorealiste dhe e pamundur. Sigurisht q\u00eb, do t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb ekip i ri, i cili do zgjidhej mbi baz\u00ebn e aft\u00ebsive, parametrave, p\u00ebrkushtimit, etj. Por q\u00eb, t\u00eb jet\u00eb i nj\u00ebjti ekip, \u00ebsht\u00eb jasht\u00eb \u00e7do lloj mund\u00ebsie.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj<\/strong>: Profesor, d eputet\u00ebt n\u00eb listat e mbyllura jan\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00eb ata q\u00eb kan\u00eb nj\u00eb mb\u00ebshtetje t\u00eb gjer\u00eb n\u00eb elektoratin demokrat dhe n\u00eb zon\u00ebn gri. Ju them me sinqeritet: shum\u00eb prej tyre jan\u00eb armiq\u00ebsor\u00eb ndaj simpatizant\u00ebve dhe talenteve t\u00eb reja. Ata e lidhin t\u00eb ardhmen e tyre duke izoluar Partin\u00eb Demokratike.\u00a0 T\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn opozitariz\u00ebm ju keni b\u00ebr\u00eb, dhe ju jeni rreziku i fundit i Edi Ram\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Elida, lista t\u00eb them nj\u00eb ndarje ose nj\u00eb p\u00ebrcaktim shum\u00eb antidemokratik. Listat e mbyllura dhe listat e hapura, t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb absolutisht antidemokratike n\u00eb vler\u00ebsimin tim. Por, po t\u2019i v\u00ebsh re, po t\u2019i studiosh, ata q\u00eb kan\u00eb qeverisur m\u00eb par\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebto lista jan\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00eb, shum\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00eb. Po, q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u00eb administrata \u00ebsht\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, por q\u00eb kan\u00eb qeverisur e kam fjal\u00ebn.<\/p>\n

Ka plot, ka t\u00eb tjer\u00eb q\u00eb s\u2019kan\u00eb qen\u00eb ose jan\u00eb t\u00eb rinj. Listat i ka diktuar kryesisht kodi n\u00eb t\u00eb hapura dhe t\u00eb mbyllura, n\u00eb t\u00eb mbyllura dhe t\u00eb hapura. Listat, tani t\u00eb jem i hapur me ju, i diktoi n\u00eb nj\u00eb shkall\u00eb t\u00eb padiskutueshme edhe i t\u00ebr\u00eb procesi q\u00eb kaloi Partia Demokratike, nj\u00eb proces n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin u b\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb kjo parti ta asgj\u00ebsohej si forc\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb opozitare, t\u00eb mos ishte, t\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb parti e kontrolluar nga Edi Rama, e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Pra, ju e dini ato \u00e7\u00ebshtje gjyq\u00ebsorem se si u mor logoja, e me rradh\u00eb tani, se \u00ebsht\u00eb histori e t\u00ebr\u00eb. Dhe ai proces kishte, sigurisht, kusht\u00ebzimet e veta, sepse kaluam nj\u00eb proces, q\u00eb s\u2019e ka kaluar ndonj\u00eb forc\u00eb politike, ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Por, natyrisht, rip\u00ebrt\u00ebritja e ekipit do t\u00eb jet\u00eb dhe mbetet motoja e Partis\u00eb Demokratike dhe jam sigurt q\u00eb do realizohet.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0Pyetja e tret\u00eb lidhet me vot\u00ebn e diaspor\u00ebs. \u00cbsht\u00eb problemi k\u00ebshtu. Ju keni qen\u00eb 12 vjet n\u00eb opozit\u00eb dhe keni patur kushte absolute q\u00eb Partia Demokratike t\u00eb krijonte lidhje me diaspor\u00ebn. Partia Demokratike nuk ka krijuar lidhje me diaspor\u00ebn. Periudha q\u00eb Partia Demokratike u angazhua n\u00eb zgjedhjet edhe ato takimet q\u00eb b\u00ebri ishin euforike, por nuk, nuk d\u00ebshmonin se kishin se kishin rezultatin konkret. Pasi, Edi Rama ka t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn 8 vjet q\u00eb punon n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb shum\u00eb agresive me diaspor\u00ebn dhe k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, ishte shum\u00eb iluzive ajo q\u00eb t\u00eb mendoje q\u00eb p\u00ebr tre muaj, dy muaj fushat\u00eb n\u00eb diaspor\u00eb do t\u00eb merreshin votat e diaspor\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Duke e ditur q\u00eb diaspora, se diaspora \u00ebsht\u00eb larguar nga Shqip\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb kontingjent, edhe \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb komunitet q\u00eb do t\u00eb votonte p\u00ebr Partin\u00eb Demokratike, n\u00ebse do t\u00eb kishte kushtet.<\/p>\n

Partia Demokratike, p\u00ebr shembull, n\u00eb Zvic\u00ebr, qeveria zvicerane dhe shteti zviceran, tregon nj\u00eb kujdes shum\u00eb t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb p\u00ebr diaspor\u00ebn. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, ju duhet t\u00eb merrnit eksperienc\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn gjat\u00eb 12 vjet\u00ebve t\u00eb kishit lidhje t\u00eb ngushta me diaspor\u00ebn, q\u00eb nuk i pat\u00ebt dhe pat\u00ebt pastaj edhe\u00a0 rezultati pastaj ishte i ngel\u00eb. T\u00eb gjitha ato kartat i pati Edi Rama n\u00eb dor\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Edhe ne si medium e kemi v\u00ebn\u00eb alarmin. Kemi v\u00ebn\u00eb alarmin, por, nuk na ka d\u00ebgjuar askush nga Tirana.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Elida, lidhur me diaspor\u00ebn, \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ajo q\u00eb thua ti, q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ishte punuar shum\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr gjat\u00eb k\u00ebtyre viteve, por disa momente t\u00eb sqarojm\u00eb.<\/p>\n

N\u00eb vitin 2013, ne d\u00ebrguam ligjin n\u00eb Parlament p\u00ebr t\u00eb votuar diaspora, por votimi i diaspor\u00ebs u shtet\u00ebzua nga Edi Rama, u shkel kontrata me dokumente t\u00eb pakund\u00ebrshtueshme. Kompania shkeli kontrat\u00ebn dhe procesi u mor n\u00eb duar, n\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtim me ligjet, nga qeveria dhe ka sjell\u00eb k\u00ebto rezultate.<\/p>\n

Sigurisht, q\u00eb, zgjedh\u00ebsit n\u00eb diaspor\u00eb, numerikisht, jan\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb se n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Ndaj edhe, kjo k\u00ebrkon q\u00eb t\u00eb gjenden format, m\u00ebnyra se si t\u00eb b\u00ebhet fushat\u00eb dhe t\u00eb punohet p\u00ebr nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsimin e tyre.<\/p>\n

Por, nga ana tjet\u00ebr, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se, qeveria vendos ta marr\u00eb n\u00eb dor\u00eb procesin, procesin e vot\u00ebs n\u00eb diaspor\u00eb e merr shum\u00eb m\u00eb leht\u00eb sesa brenda vendit, si\u00e7 e mori faktikisht. DHL \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb post\u00eb me em\u00ebr, por q\u00eb shkeli kontrat\u00ebn dhe ua dha n\u00ebn kontraktor\u00ebve t\u00eb lidhur me Partin\u00eb Socialiste, p\u00ebrfshi postin shqiptare.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit, profesor!<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit doktor! Fjal\u00ebn e japim z. Ardian Murra, i cili lidhet nga Shtetet e Bashkuara t\u00eb Amerik\u00ebs. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gazetar, nj\u00eb shtyll\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme e unionit ton\u00eb dhe kryetar i Komisionit Etik\u00ebs. Etika, kaq e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr profesionin e gazetarit? P\u00ebr ty fjala Ardian!<\/p>\n

Ardian Murra:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit! P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje, doktor! Un\u00eb kisha l\u00ebn\u00eb dy \u00e7\u00ebshtje n\u00eb p\u00ebrmbajtjen e pyetjes time, t\u00eb cilat i p\u00ebrcaktova si parlamentarizmi dhe pluralizmi.<\/p>\n

Ju kemi ndjekur gjat\u00eb fushat\u00ebs parazgjedhore t\u00eb 11 majit dhe shpesh nga mediat ju \u00ebsht\u00eb k\u00ebrkuar, dhe un\u00eb p\u00ebr veten \u00a0time kam ndjer\u00eb si nj\u00eb form\u00eb presioni, \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e largimit tuaj, dhe ajo rezulton me at\u00eb n\u00eb rast fitore a do t\u00eb jeni, apo jo kryeminist\u00ebr?<\/p>\n

Dhe ju, jeni p\u00ebrgjigjur drejtp\u00ebrdrejt q\u00eb, n\u00eb rastin e fitores s\u00eb aleanc\u00ebs q\u00eb ju kishit, ju ishit i hapur karshi konkurrimit, q\u00eb dikush tjet\u00ebr mund ta merrte dhe q\u00eb at\u00ebher\u00eb m\u00eb shkoi n\u00eb mend ideja. I vetmi vend q\u00eb ju nuk kishit provuar n\u00eb drejtimin e politik\u00ebs shqiptare mund t\u00eb ishte ai i kryetarit t\u00eb parlamentit. Dhe aty, n\u00eb parlament, ne shohim pjes\u00ebn e luft\u00ebs kryesore q\u00eb zhvillohet mes forcave politike, dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb tabloja, p\u00ebr t\u2019u paraqitur n\u00eb aspektin e nj\u00eb mazhorance dominuese me forc\u00ebn e kartonit.<\/p>\n

Kush drejton, kush vendos ligjet? \u00c7far\u00eb ndodh nga krahu juaj dhe pak a shum\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb e \u00a0v\u00ebrtetoi dhe legjislatura e 10 me mbylljen e saj me dy kryetar Kuvendi. Tani them, n\u00eb rastin m\u00eb t\u00eb af\u00ebrt, si e shihni ju zhvillimin e betej\u00ebs parlamentare, mes forcave opozitare?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Faleminderit p\u00ebr pyetjen. Samuel Huntington, kur p\u00ebrshkruan diktaturat, thot\u00eb se, forma m\u00eb e keqe e t\u00eb gjitha llojeve t\u00eb diktaturave, si nazistja, komunistja, teokratike apo junt\u00eb ushtarake \u00ebsht\u00eb narko-diktatura, apo ajo q\u00eb e quante ai mobo-kracia.<\/p>\n

Pse?<\/p>\n

Sepse ajo nuk respekton, thot\u00eb Huntington, asnj\u00eb rregull. Dhe n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se ju ndiqni, edhe i ndiqni sigurisht zhvillimet, n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, shkelet dhe mund t\u00eb shkelet \u00e7do nen i Kushtetut\u00ebs, \u00e7do nen i Kodit Zgjedhor, \u00e7do nen i Rregullores s\u00eb Parlamentit. Ju rikujtoj k\u00ebtu se, ne q\u00ebndruam 54 dit\u00eb n\u00eb mosbindje civile n\u00eb Parlament, sepse n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb absolute, asnj\u00eb nga t\u00eb drejtat tona themelore nuk respektohej.<\/p>\n

Dhe imagjino, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, nuk na lejohen Komisionet Hetimore Parlamentare. Kryeministri nuk pranon interpelanca. Kryeministri nuk pranon pyetje. Ministrat, apo deputet\u00eb socialist\u00eb p\u00ebrdorin pushtetin p\u00ebr tu pasuruar, \u00e7ka Kushtetuta e d\u00ebnon me nj\u00eb nen t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb. Dhe asgj\u00eb nuk ndodhte. Parlamenti nuk d\u00ebrgonte vendimet n\u00eb Gjykat\u00ebn Kushtetuese.<\/p>\n

Pra, un\u00eb ju dhash\u00eb disa shembuj p\u00ebr t\u2019ju th\u00ebn\u00eb, q\u00eb sigurisht beteja parlamentare do vazhdoj\u00eb, por t\u00eb garantoj q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtat kushte p\u00ebrs\u00ebri. N\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtat kushte. Ju e that\u00eb edhe Elida, dhe ju. \u00c7\u00ebshtje fundamentale \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtja e pluralizmit n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Edi Rama nuk pranon pluralizmin. Edi Rama b\u00ebn \u00e7do gj\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb shuaj\u00eb pluralizmin.<\/p>\n

Riktheni pak vet\u00ebm sekuenc\u00ebn televizive, kur thot\u00eb se e shkat\u00ebrruam, LSI-n\u00eb e shkat\u00ebrruam, dhe mir\u00eb b\u00ebm\u00eb. Po LSI-ja \u00e7far\u00eb ishte? Ishte nj\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtare 18 vje\u00e7 e Sali Berish\u00ebs dhe nj\u00eb aleate e Edi Ram\u00ebs. Por, n\u00eb spektrin pluralist, ti nuk mund t\u2019i mohosh se ajo luajti nj\u00eb rol. K\u00ebnaq\u00ebsia e tij q\u00eb zhduku nj\u00eb element, nj\u00eb faktor t\u00eb pluralizmit. \u00a0Me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, ai betej\u00eb n\u00eb thelb e ka me pluralizmin.<\/p>\n

Mir\u00ebpo, kjo, t\u00eb dashur miq, e b\u00ebn betej\u00ebn ton\u00eb nj\u00eb betej\u00eb ekzistenciale, betej\u00eb p\u00ebr ekzistenc\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0T\u00eb themi gj\u00ebra qart\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb rruga e civilizuar. Ka patur nj\u00eb emision Alizotin, m\u00eb habiti, jemi civilizuar. Ke dhe rrug\u00ebn serbe, ke dhe rrug\u00ebn ukrainase, Mejdanin, Beogradin, rrug\u00ebn radikale.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Tani, ju garantoj se vet\u00ebm mosbindja civile \u00ebsht\u00eb rruga, dhe rrug\u00eb tjet\u00ebr p\u00ebr t\u00eb rikthyer vot\u00ebn e lir\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri nuk ka p\u00ebrve\u00e7 se, nj\u00eb betej\u00eb, ku t\u00eb p\u00ebrdoren t\u00eb gjitha mjetet e spektrit dhe fjal\u00eb. P\u00ebrndryshe, si\u00e7 ndodh n\u00eb narkodiktatura, Vladimir Putin ka fituar her\u00ebn e par\u00eb me 53, ka kaluar n\u00eb 63, do kaloj\u00eb n\u00eb 73 p\u00ebrqind e me radh\u00eb, e me radh\u00eb. Vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb gj\u00eb, n\u00eb vot\u00ebn e diaspor\u00ebs n\u00eb Fier, Edi Rama dallon nga Assadi i Siris\u00eb me 2 p\u00ebrqind. Assadi ka marr\u00eb 95 p\u00ebrqind, Edi Rama 93 p\u00ebrqind. K\u00ebtu, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb betej\u00eb ekzistenciale p\u00ebr pluralizmin.<\/p>\n

Andi Murraj:<\/strong>\u00a0N\u00eb qoft\u00eb se, m\u00eb lejoni t\u00eb vazhdoj. N\u00eb lidhje me pluralizmin dhe parlamentarizmin. Grupi juaj parlamentar ishte i pranish\u00ebm n\u00eb Europ\u00eb dhe besoj kam d\u00ebgjuar n\u00eb fjal\u00ebn tuaj q\u00eb keni p\u00ebrmendur nj\u00eb term narko-euro? Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, dua t\u00eb di, si \u00ebsht\u00eb pritur ky mesazh atje, dhe ta krahasoni at\u00eb me raportin tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb, kur publiku shqiptar d\u00ebgjon q\u00eb Partia Demokratike i prish imazhin Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb. Si q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb k\u00ebto dy an\u00eb, dhe jo m\u00eb larg \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb njoftim, ndoshta nga ATSH-ja, faqja e tyre zyrtare propagand\u00ebs. Ambasadori shqiptar n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb foto shkrepje me Marko Rubion dhe thot\u00eb: \u201cRubio pranon ftes\u00ebn e Ram\u00ebs n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb\u201d.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb, z. Murraj. V\u00ebshtir\u00ebsit\u00eb tona jan\u00eb shum\u00eb serioze, sepse Europa nuk njeh narko-shtetet. P\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb, Departamenti i Shtetit d\u00ebrgoi para nj\u00eb muaji e gjysm\u00eb nj\u00eb p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsues, m\u00eb fal, Departamenti i Drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb, i cili paralajm\u00ebroi qeverin\u00eb shqiptare p\u00ebr luft\u00ebn q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb kund\u00ebr karteleve t\u00eb drog\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Por, kartelet e drog\u00ebs k\u00ebtu jan\u00eb potentatet m\u00eb t\u00eb fuqishme. Edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb. Poja, Troplini i Durr\u00ebsit, Suel \u00c7ela i Elbasanit, ka fuqi t\u00eb pakrahasueshme me \u00e7do minist\u00ebr n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb vend.<\/p>\n

Ne kemi arritur n\u00eb familjen ton\u00eb, familja jon\u00eb Popullore dhe e spektrit. Kemi avancuar me k\u00ebt\u00eb koncept. Nuk mund t\u00eb them se kemi t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn rezultat me qeverit\u00eb e vendeve partnere. Por, p\u00ebr sa u p\u00ebrket atyre q\u00eb thon\u00eb, nuk m\u00eb shqet\u00ebsojn\u00eb fare, sepse armiku m\u00eb i eg\u00ebr i shqiptar\u00ebve, m\u00eb i eg\u00ebr sot \u00ebsht\u00eb narkoshteti i tyre.<\/p>\n

Asnj\u00eb armik n\u00eb histori, asnj\u00eb armik, asnj\u00eb pushtues n\u00eb histori, asnj\u00eb regjim n\u00eb histori, nuk i ka shp\u00ebrngulur ata n\u00eb 10 vite, 45% t\u00eb materies s\u00eb tyre komb\u00ebtare jasht\u00eb vendit. Vet\u00ebm n\u00eb hap\u00ebsir\u00ebn e Schengen-it nga 2014, sipas statistik\u00ebs s\u00eb Bashkimit Europian. Nga 2014 deri 2024, jan\u00eb shp\u00ebrngulur, jan\u00eb larguar nj\u00eb 1 milion e 99 mij\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb. N\u00eb fakt, Shqip\u00ebria po shkret\u00ebtohet n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn m\u00eb t\u00eb jasht\u00ebzakonshme. Ndaj edhe, un\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb betej\u00eb, t\u00eb jem i sinqert\u00eb, shoh vet\u00ebm p\u00ebrpjekje, detyrimin madhor si t\u00eb mbrojm\u00eb ekzistenc\u00ebn e k\u00ebtij kombi q\u00eb po shuhet n\u00eb syt\u00eb e bot\u00ebs. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit doktor, faleminderit Ardi! Pyetja e fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb e imja. Doktor, n\u00eb zgjedhjet e 11 maj 2025, ligji zgjedh\u00ebs, pra ligji \u00a0elektoral, shfaqi fort e qart\u00eb se sa influencoi n\u00eb shtremb\u00ebrmin e vot\u00ebs p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb ndarjes s\u00eb zonave. Kam zona t\u00eb cilat me rreth 50 mij\u00eb vota u zgjodh nj\u00eb deputet dhe zona tjera, ku me t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn num\u00ebr votash u zgjodh\u00ebn 9 deputet\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Ligji zgjedhor, a do t\u00eb jet\u00eb beteja e radh\u00ebs n\u00eb Parlamentin e ri? \u00c7far\u00eb do donit dhe si do t\u00eb donit ta ndryshoni p\u00ebr t\u00eb mir\u00ebn e demokracits dhe pluralizmit n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri?<\/p>\n

Dhe pyetja e dyt\u00eb, m\u00eb ngacmoi Genci, po e lidh me Italin\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Ju keni pasur nj\u00eb lidhje, jasht\u00ebzakonisht fort me Italin\u00eb. Shum\u00eb her\u00eb keni udh\u00ebtuar. Kam qen\u00eb dhe prezente n\u00eb takime, konferenca me ish-liderin e partis\u00eb Forza Italia, pra Silvio Berlusconi. Ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb z\u00eb i fort\u00eb n\u00eb mbrojtjen e Partis\u00eb Demokratike dhe t\u00eb demokracis\u00eb shqiptare n\u00eb aren\u00ebn europiane. Shohim se, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb k\u00ebshtu. A keni b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb analiz\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb kuptuar se, ndoshta edhe kjo lidhje me partit\u00eb t\u00eb djathta, ka nj\u00eb hara\u00e7 apo nj\u00eb borxh p\u00ebr m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn se si Partia Demokratike ka zgjedhur nd\u00ebrmjet\u00ebsit dhe personat p\u00ebr t\u00eb kryer, apo p\u00ebr t\u00eb sjell\u00eb mesazhin e duhur te forcat e djathta italiane, jo vet\u00ebm t\u00eb Forza Italia, por edhe Fratelli d\u2019Italia, Lega etj.<\/p>\n

Jan\u00eb partit\u00eb e djathta q\u00eb kemi t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn linj\u00eb ideologjike. Faleminderit!<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Lidhur me kodin elektoral, sigurisht q\u00eb, ky kod n\u00eb vitin 2020 dhe 2021 u deformua n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn m\u00eb t\u00eb sh\u00ebmtuar dhe ndryshimi i tij do t\u00eb jet\u00eb objekt i k\u00ebrkesave tona.<\/p>\n

Por, Edi Rama nuk pranon ndryshime. Duhet t\u00eb jemi realist\u00eb edhe racional\u00eb. Edi Rama \u00ebsht\u00eb njeri q\u00eb ka kryer krime t\u00eb r\u00ebnda. I r\u00ebndojn\u00eb dosje shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnda, dhe ai b\u00ebn gjith\u00e7ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbajtur pushtetin.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebr sa u p\u00ebrket marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieve, natyrisht q\u00eb, ka ndikuar shum\u00eb marr\u00ebveshja Rama-Meloni dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb realitet, s\u2019mund ta mohoj. Por, ne kemi ruajtur marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet tona me Forza Italia si marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie bilaterale, ashtu edhe n\u00eb kuadrin e organizatave ku jemi partner\u00eb. Nuk mund t\u00eb them se, e djathta italiane ka ato qendrimet q\u00eb ka patur me djatht\u00ebn shqiptare, se k\u00ebtu n\u00eb mes \u00ebsht\u00eb Gjadri. Vet\u00ebkuptohet, Gjadri. Por ky, nuk p\u00ebrb\u00ebn nj\u00eb motiv q\u00eb ne t\u00eb favorizojm\u00eb, ose t\u00eb mos vazhdojm\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekjet tona me partner\u00ebt tan\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb qendra e djatht\u00eb dhe e djathta n\u00eb Itali.<\/p>\n

Mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb mesazher\u00eb, por n\u00eb radh\u00eb, n\u00eb nj\u00eb far\u00eb m\u00ebnyre, kontaktet i kemi dhe direkt me t\u00eb ardhurat. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm, nuk besoj se ka vuajtur shum\u00eb mesazheri sa \u00e7ka, sa \u00e7\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb ky faktor madhor q\u00eb dikton qendrimet t\u00eb caktuara t\u00eb tyre.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit, doktor.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:<\/strong>\u00a0Profesor, desha t\u2019ju pyesja p\u00ebr Ervin Salianjin, q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i burgosur, deputet, ish-deputeti i opozit\u00ebs dhe nuk e kam. Opozita ka ndonj\u00eb, ndonj\u00eb strategji p\u00ebr t\u00eb sensibilizuar?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Opozita \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e Salianjit e ka ngritur n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha forumet nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare. Salianji \u00ebsht\u00eb i burgosur politik, sipas rezolutave, t\u00eb cilat i jan\u00eb, jan\u00eb votuar n\u00eb partit\u00eb e qendr\u00ebs djatht\u00eb, kudo. N\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha ato q\u00eb p\u00ebrmenda. Por natyrisht, e kemi ngritur edhe n\u00eb K\u00ebshillin Europian, n\u00eb Parlamentin Evropian. Por, t\u00eb jem i sinqert\u00eb. Problemi i t\u00eb drejtave t\u00eb njeriut \u00ebsht\u00eb larg atyre niveleve q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb dikur.<\/p>\n

Duhet ta pranojm\u00eb q\u00eb, ka nj\u00eb r\u00ebnie t\u00eb ndjeshm\u00ebris\u00eb ndaj t\u00eb drejtave politike dhe t\u00eb drejtave t\u00eb njeriut. Thash\u00eb, ju d\u00ebgjoni q\u00eb, pothuajse ka nj\u00eb an\u00ebsim m\u00eb t\u00eb madh drejt stabilokracis\u00eb, sesa demokracis\u00eb n\u00eb raporte.<\/p>\n

Elida Bu\u00e7papaj:\u00a0<\/strong>Mendoni q\u00eb Per\u00ebndimi \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb kriz\u00eb, n\u00eb kulmin e kriz\u00ebs?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Them q\u00eb, p\u00ebrballet me probleme shum\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta. \u00a0N\u00eb vler\u00ebsimin tim, me probleme shum\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha dhe t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut nuk duhet t\u00eb shuhen kurr\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Doktor, rrim\u00eb te t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut. Shikoni, p\u00ebr Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb, p\u00ebr mua m\u00eb shokuese \u00a0ka qen\u00eb arresti pa gjykim i juaji, i dh\u00ebndrit tuaj, i Met\u00ebs, i Belerit. At\u00ebher\u00eb, nj\u00eb pyetje me pak kunj\u00eb, e pranoj. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rastm a do konsideronit q\u00eb edhe arresti afatgjat\u00ebm pa gjyq ende i\u00a0 Veliajt, \u00ebsht\u00eb po ashtu nj\u00eb abuzim me t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut q\u00eb b\u00ebn SPAK-u?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Tani, q\u00eb arresti i Erion Veliajt \u00ebsht\u00eb diktuar nga Edi Rama, besoj se \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb shum\u00eb e qart\u00eb. Vet\u00ebm se, \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb arresti i Erion Velis\u00eb? Arresti i Erion Velis\u00eb, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se, kemi parasysh, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se kemi parasysh 130 milion\u00eb euro t\u00eb zhdukura n\u00eb djeg\u00ebsin e Tiran\u00ebs, dhe Erion Veliaj nuk akuzohet p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, nuk ka asnj\u00eb akuz\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb, kjo tregon nj\u00eb kontroll t\u00eb plot\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Por, un\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb them se Erion Veliaj, bashkautor, bashk\u00ebfirmatar i djeg\u00ebsit t\u00eb Tiran\u00ebs, i afer\u00ebs \u20185D\u2019, dhe sipas punonj\u00ebsve t\u00eb brendsh\u00ebm, bashk\u00ebpronar n\u00eb hotelin m\u00eb t\u00eb madh n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri q\u00eb po nd\u00ebrtohet n\u00eb Durr\u00ebs. Nuk mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb krahasim me arrestime t\u00eb tjera.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, s\u2019e ka vet\u00ebm t\u00eb, e kam edhe nj\u00eb her\u00eb, se hap\u00ebt kapitullin se jemi n\u00eb kriz\u00eb dhe se sot t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut po b\u00ebhen kurban i stabiliokracis\u00eb. N\u00eb rregull, ky \u00ebsht\u00eb debati.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>N\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri nuk ekziston problemi i t\u00eb drejtave t\u00eb njeriut.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb jam gazetar dhe intelektual. Sot, dhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb, nuk mund t\u00eb pretendojm\u00eb t\u00eb kemi t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut \u2018\u00e0 la carte\u2019 me gjeometri variab\u00ebl. Prezumimi i pafaj\u00ebsis\u00eb, ekziston p\u00ebr ju dhe p\u00ebr kund\u00ebrshtar\u00ebt, ose p\u00ebr ask\u00ebnd. P\u00ebrndryshe nuk arrin dot, doktor.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:<\/strong>\u00a0Po, jam dakord n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb koncept. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb kuptim, jam dakord. Por ama, \u00e7\u00ebshtjet p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilat akuzohet, \u00e7\u00ebshtje q\u00eb r\u00ebndojn\u00eb mbi Erion Velin\u00eb dhe i injorohen, me \u00e7\u00ebshtje q\u00eb akuzojn\u00eb Ilir Met\u00ebn, se ke lidhje me Ismailin n\u00eb koh\u00eb, kur Ismailin e mbajn\u00eb 6 vite n\u00eb burg dhe thot\u00eb nuk ka lidhje, at\u00ebher\u00eb, si mund t\u00eb them un\u00eb q\u00eb ilir Meta kishte lidhje me DIA-n, se duhet t\u2019i marrim k\u00ebshtu dhe s\u2019ka asnj\u00eb firm\u00eb. Pra, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se, kemi t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb me akuza pa fakt penal dhe akuza t\u00eb bazuara n\u00eb fakte penale, jan\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme. Un\u00eb jam dakord me ty, q\u00eb para d\u00ebnimit<\/p>\n

\u00e7do person \u00ebsht\u00eb i pa i pafajsh\u00ebm. Q\u00ebndron kjo, plot\u00ebsisht. Por, kjo nuk p\u00ebrjashton disa masat t\u00eb caktuara, kur ka t\u00eb dh\u00ebna, si\u00e7 jan\u00eb dosjet konkrete, t\u00eb tij.<\/p>\n

Genc Burimi:<\/strong>\u00a0Edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb, vini n\u00eb pushtet. Un\u00eb shokohem sot. Ky zot\u00ebri, i akuzuar p\u00ebr vjedhje t\u00eb taksa t\u00eb qytetar\u00ebve, si quhet ai, Ceno? Dhe sot, e gjen deputet, n\u00eb Fier.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Po pra, sepse drejt\u00ebsia \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb kontroll t\u00eb plot\u00eb politik. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb d\u00ebshmi e kontrollit t\u00eb plot\u00eb politik t\u00eb drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, doja ta mbyllja edhe me nj\u00eb mesazh, edhe me faktin se sapo nis edhe procesi gjyq\u00ebsor\u00a0 politik ndaj Prof. Dr. Sali Berisha dhe zotit Jamarb\u00ebr Malltezi. \u00a0Ne, jemi 7 gazetar\u00eb profesionist shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb diaspor\u00eb me qasje tona n\u00eb mediat e huaja. Doja nj\u00eb mesazhin tuaj, doktor n\u00eb prag t\u00eb k\u00ebtij proces, p\u00ebr vet\u00eb faktit se, tashm\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i qart\u00eb se \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb proces politik. N\u00ebse ju do t\u00eb ishit p\u00ebrball\u00eb 7 p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsues t\u00eb mediave t\u00eb\u00a0 huaja, \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb thonit p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb proces?<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>\u00cbsht\u00eb fund e krye nj\u00eb piramid\u00eb mashtrimi, e bazuar n\u00eb trillime, manipulime dhe falsifikime, pa asnj\u00eb shkelje ligjore, pa asnj\u00eb lloj shkelje ligjore dhe asnj\u00eb lloj ndikimi jasht\u00eb kritereve ligjore. Gjith\u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb e stisur, p\u00ebrfunduan akuzat kund\u00ebr meje. Pagesa q\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb vajza ime t\u00eb pushimeve familjare. Sponsorizimi q\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb Jamarb\u00ebr Malltezi me t\u00eb shoqen, t\u00eb\u00a0 familjeve me f\u00ebmij\u00eb autik\u00eb, etj. \u00cbsht\u00eb piramid\u00eb fund e krye mashtrimi \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb proces politik.<\/p>\n

Faleminderit!<\/p>\n

Alba Kepi:<\/strong>\u00a0Faleminderit, Prof. Dr. Sali Berisha. E kaluam koh\u00ebn. Ju urojm\u00eb dhe g\u00ebzuar dit\u00eblindje bashk\u00ebshortes suaj, doktoresh\u00ebs Liri Berisha, e cila ka qen\u00eb dhe doktoresha ime kur kam qen\u00eb e sapolindur.<\/p>\n

Sali Berisha:\u00a0<\/strong>Shum\u00eb faleminderit! Shum\u00eb faleminderit edhe un\u00eb ju uroj g\u00ebzime shum\u00eb t\u00eb mira.<\/p>\n

Shum\u00eb faleminderit!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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