{"id":47145,"date":"2023-05-29T08:42:39","date_gmt":"2023-05-29T08:42:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/?p=47145"},"modified":"2023-05-29T08:42:39","modified_gmt":"2023-05-29T08:42:39","slug":"pensionet-e-emigranteve-pasojat-e-mungeses-se-marreveshjes-me-greqine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/2023\/05\/29\/pensionet-e-emigranteve-pasojat-e-mungeses-se-marreveshjes-me-greqine\/","title":{"rendered":"Pensionet e emigrant\u00ebve, pasojat e munges\u00ebs s\u00eb marr\u00ebveshjes me Greqin\u00eb"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><strong>Ardi STEFA<\/strong><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00c7far\u00eb po b\u00ebhet me pensionet e emigrant\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi?<\/div>\n<div>\u00c7far\u00eb b\u00ebn shteti yn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbrojtur t\u00eb drejtat e shtetasve t\u00eb tij e, m\u00eb konkretisht, njohjen reciproke t\u00eb kontributeve t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore e sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsore.<\/div>\n<div>Pra, a e ka n\u00eb v\u00ebmendje shteti yn\u00eb, q\u00eb shtetasve shqiptar\u00eb q\u00eb kontribuojn\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi t\u00eb mos u digjet asnj\u00eb sigurim?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Njohja e pensioneve me Greqin\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje e l\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb kalendat greke, d.mth. n\u00eb nj\u00eb t\u00eb ardhme e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e larg\u00ebt, apo po kryhen bisedime?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>N\u00ebse po kryhen bisedime apo \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrmbyllur faza e par\u00eb e tyre, duke treguar vullnet p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbyllur marr\u00ebveshjen s\u00eb shpejti, si\u00e7 pretendohet: cilat jan\u00eb rezultatet?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Dhe, n\u00eb analiz\u00eb t\u00eb fundit, p\u00ebrse nuk ka nj\u00eb informim t\u00eb gjer\u00eb t\u00eb publikut p\u00ebr k\u00ebto marr\u00ebveshje.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>E, pra, problemi \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb kompleks. Pavar\u00ebsisht p\u00ebrparimeve n\u00eb marr\u00ebveshjen p\u00ebr njohjen e pensioneve me Greqin\u00eb dhe dakord\u00ebsin\u00eb n\u00eb parim, ende ka shum\u00eb pika, t\u00eb cilat duhen diskutuar dhe duhen zgjidhur, n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mos humbasin vitet e pun\u00ebs dhe kontributet e shtetasve shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>N\u00eb muajin prill t\u00eb k\u00ebtij viti, drejtuesit e Sigurimeve Shoq\u00ebrore t\u00eb dy shteteve kan\u00eb mbyllur diskutimet teknike n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u2019i hapur rrrug\u00eb njohjes s\u00eb viteve t\u00eb pun\u00ebs s\u00eb emigrant\u00ebv\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi, si nj\u00eb prej komuniteteve m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha t\u00eb diaspor\u00ebs shqiptare.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>N\u00eb shtator t\u00eb vitit 2022, bisedime jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb edhe n\u00eb Athin\u00eb, dhe n\u00ebse marr\u00ebveshja do t\u00eb arrihet shpejt, Greqia b\u00ebhet shteti i 15-t\u00eb p\u00ebr mbulimin e sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore.<\/div>\n<div>Projektligji p\u00ebr pensionet i paraqitur marsin e kaluar n\u00eb Parlamentin grek parashikon uljen me 30 vite q\u00ebndrimi p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrfituar pension komb\u00ebtar nga 40 vite q\u00eb ishte.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Emigrant\u00ebt shqiptar\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb kontribues t\u00eb rregullt n\u00eb skemat e sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore greke p\u00ebr shkak se pagesat e sigurimeve lidheshin detyrimisht me marrjen e lejeq\u00ebndrimeve, q\u00ebndrimin e tyre t\u00eb ligjsh\u00ebm, pun \u00ebsimin dhe p\u00ebrfitimin e t\u00eb drejtave q\u00eb rridhnin nga kjo.<\/div>\n<div>Sipas shifrave vler\u00ebsohet se jan\u00eb mbi 700 mij\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt kan\u00eb punuar pas viteve 90 n\u00eb Greqi. N\u00ebse marr\u00ebveshja realizohet, shqiptar\u00ebve do t\u2019u njihen vitet e kontributeve t\u00eb sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore, duke p\u00ebrfituar k\u00ebshtu pensionin me formul\u00ebn e p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebt.<\/div>\n<div>Deri tani qeveria shqiptare ka negociuar me 14 shtete n\u00eb fush\u00ebn e sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore, duke lidhur marr\u00ebveshje p\u00ebrfundimtare me 13 prej tyre.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00c7far\u00eb ndryshon n\u00eb dh\u00ebnien e pensionit komb\u00ebtar p\u00ebr emigrant\u00ebt shqiptar\u00eb?<\/div>\n<div>Deri m\u00eb tani, pensioni komb\u00ebtar p\u00ebr emigrant\u00ebt nga Shqip\u00ebria dhe vendet e ish-Bashkimit Sovjetik kusht\u00ebzohej me q\u00ebndrimin e tyre n\u00eb Greqi prej 40 vitesh. \u201cMegjithat\u00eb, kriteri i vendbanimit rezulton objektivisht i pamundur p\u00ebr t\u00eb plot\u00ebsuar dh\u00ebnien e mas\u00ebs s\u00eb plot\u00eb t\u00eb pensionit komb\u00ebtar grek p\u00ebr emigrant\u00ebt q\u00eb kan\u00eb marr\u00eb shtet\u00ebsi greke, pasi kufijt\u00eb e vendeve t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb rezidenc\u00ebs u hap\u00ebn n\u00eb vitin 1990, n\u00eb rastin m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Me dispozit\u00ebn e propozuar, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb e vlefshme nga data 1 janar e k\u00ebtij viti dhe p\u00ebr nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb kalimtare 10-vje\u00e7are, e cila skadon n\u00eb vitin 2032, k\u00ebrkesa \u00ebsht\u00eb 30 n\u00eb vend t\u00eb 40 viteve t\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit, n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb emigrant\u00ebt t\u00eb marrin nj\u00eb pension t\u00eb plot\u00eb komb\u00ebtar. M\u00eb pas, ky kufi rregullohet gradualisht \u00e7do vit.<\/div>\n<div>Sipas autoriteteve greke pensioni llogaritej n\u00eb raport me sa vite q\u00ebndrimi kishin mbetur prej 40 viteve q\u00eb ishte kriteri kryesor. Ky hark kohor tashm\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ulur edhe p\u00ebr faktin se ardhja e emigrant\u00ebve n\u00eb Greqi pas vitit 1992 dhe marrja e kart\u00ebs s\u00eb emigrantit t\u00eb ligjsh\u00ebm n\u00eb vitin 1998, nuk mund t\u00eb kusht\u00ebzohej me 40 vitet t\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit n\u00eb Greqi para vitit 2038.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>P\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesit e shoqatave t\u00eb emigrant\u00ebve kan\u00eb k\u00ebrkuar nj\u00eb pension t\u00eb plot\u00eb komb\u00ebtar ku kriteri i viteve t\u00eb ulej n\u00eb 20 vite t\u00eb q\u00ebndrimit t\u00eb ligjsh\u00ebm n\u00eb Greqi, dhe jo 30 sa \u00e7\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrcaktuar n\u00eb projektligj.\u00a0 Partia e Majt\u00eb Radikale &#8211; SYRIZA ka k\u00ebrkuar pages\u00ebn e pensionit komb\u00ebtar p\u00ebr emigrant\u00ebt nga Shqip\u00ebria dhe vendet e ish-Bashkimit Sovjetik q\u00eb kan\u00eb 15 vite q\u00ebndrim t\u00eb p\u00ebrhersh\u00ebm.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Aktualisht qeveria greke parashikon se do t\u00eb k\u00ebrkohen 30 vjet q\u00ebndrim q\u00eb emigrant\u00ebt nga Shqip\u00ebria dhe vendet e ish-Bashkimit Sovjetik n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb k\u00ebta t\u00eb fundit t\u00eb marrin pension t\u00eb plot\u00eb.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr paramet\u00ebr, i cili duhet pasur parasysh nga shteti shqiptar.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Aktualisht \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr kategori e shtetasve shqiptar\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt duket se jan\u00eb l\u00ebn\u00eb jasht\u00eb marr\u00ebveshjes, ose nuk p\u00ebrmenden.<\/div>\n<div>Jan\u00eb ata ish- emigrant\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt kan\u00eb punuar dikur n\u00eb Greqi dhe p\u00ebr nj\u00eb arsye ose nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr kan\u00eb vendosur t\u00eb kthehen n\u00eb vendin e tyre, n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Kjo kategori p\u00ebrfshihet n\u00eb bisedimet p\u00ebr pensionet, qoft\u00eb edhe t\u00eb pjesshme nga Greqia? Apo do t\u2019u mohohen k\u00ebto vite pune, mij\u00ebra euro kontribute n\u00eb sistemin e sigurimeve t\u00eb shtetit grek.<\/div>\n<div>N\u00eb dijenin\u00eb time duhet q\u00eb k\u00ebta ish- emigrant\u00eb t\u00eb ken\u00eb 15 vite pune n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri p\u00ebr pensionin minimal dhe 15 vite t\u00eb plota pune n\u00eb Greqi, ose 4.500 ensima (dit\u00eb pune t\u00eb siguruara).<\/div>\n<div>P\u00ebr ata q\u00eb kan\u00eb m\u00eb pak se 15 vite pune t\u00eb siguruara, \u00e7far\u00eb ndodh? Humbasin t\u00eb gjitha ato kontribute?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb edhe kjo kategori do t\u00eb mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrfitonte vitet e pun\u00ebs n\u00eb Greqi p\u00ebr pension n\u00eb rast se do t\u00eb kishin shkuar p\u00ebr t\u00eb jetuar e punuar n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb ligjshme n\u00eb vende t\u00eb BE apo edhe n\u00ebse Shqip\u00ebria do t\u00eb ishte an\u00ebtare e BE, por Shqip\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb ende shum\u00eb larg, nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb ata q\u00eb presin pensionin p\u00ebr t\u00eb jetuar me dinjitet jan\u00eb shum\u00eb dhe nuk i pret koha, nuk e kan\u00eb jet\u00ebn p\u00ebrpara.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>A nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00ebkat q\u00eb kjo kategori t\u00eb mos p\u00ebrfshihet n\u00eb bisedime?\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/d.m.th\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">D.m.th<\/a>. t\u00eb p\u00ebrfitojn\u00eb nj\u00eb pension, ose nj\u00eb vler\u00eb mujore sa u takon p\u00ebr kontributet e derdhura kur t\u00eb arrijn\u00eb mosh\u00ebn e pensionit?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Dhe, n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit, t\u00eb dy shtetet kan\u00eb detyrimin moral, njer\u00ebzor e ekonomik ndaj k\u00ebsaj kategorie.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ardi STEFA \u00c7far\u00eb po b\u00ebhet me pensionet e emigrant\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi? \u00c7far\u00eb b\u00ebn shteti yn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbrojtur t\u00eb drejtat e shtetasve t\u00eb tij e, m\u00eb konkretisht, njohjen reciproke t\u00eb kontributeve t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb sigurimeve shoq\u00ebrore e sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsore. Pra, a e ka n\u00eb v\u00ebmendje shteti yn\u00eb, q\u00eb shtetasve shqiptar\u00eb q\u00eb kontribuojn\u00eb n\u00eb Greqi t\u00eb &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":19486,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47145","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","","category-editorial"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47145","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=47145"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47145\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/19486"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47145"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=47145"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=47145"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}