{"id":81089,"date":"2024-06-03T11:41:38","date_gmt":"2024-06-03T11:41:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/?p=81089"},"modified":"2024-06-03T11:41:38","modified_gmt":"2024-06-03T11:41:38","slug":"gazetari-i-tregon-rames-biseden-e-mafias-per-caktimin-e-balles-minister-rama-je-i-pafytyre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/2024\/06\/03\/gazetari-i-tregon-rames-biseden-e-mafias-per-caktimin-e-balles-minister-rama-je-i-pafytyre\/","title":{"rendered":"Gazetari i tregon Ram\u00ebs bised\u00ebn e mafias p\u00ebr caktimin e Ball\u00ebs minist\u00ebr, Rama: Je i pafytyr\u00eb…"},"content":{"rendered":"

INTERVISTA<\/strong><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Jo, jo. M\u00eb lini t\u00eb mbaroj. Tani sapo that\u00eb nj\u00eb g\u00ebnjesht\u00ebr tjet\u00ebr. That\u00eb \u201cshum\u00eb eksponent\u00eb t\u00eb qeveris\u00eb suaj\u201d. Kush jan\u00eb k\u00ebta?<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb minist\u00ebr i Brendsh\u00ebm.<\/p>\n

Rama:\u00a0<\/strong>Ah, nj\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Ishte ministri pasardh\u00ebs, Xhafa, q\u00eb nuk kishte gabuar, po dha dor\u00ebheqjen menj\u00ebher\u00eb m\u00eb pas. \u00cbsht\u00eb ministri aktual i Brendsh\u00ebm. Ka nj\u00eb bised\u00eb midis dy krer\u00ebve t\u00eb mafies, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt thon\u00eb: \u201cE dim\u00eb kush do jet\u00eb ministri i ardhsh\u00ebm i Brendsh\u00ebm dhe p\u00ebrmendin emrin e Taulant Ball\u00ebs. M\u00eb falni.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u00eb fal, po q\u00eb ti thuash k\u00ebto gj\u00ebra duhet t\u00eb jesh i pafytyr\u00eb. Un\u00eb nuk arrij dot ta imagjinoj sesi mundet sh\u00ebrbimi italian t\u00eb tregoj\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb fytyr\u00eb\u2026 Pra, ato gj\u00ebra q\u00eb po thoni jan\u00eb t\u00eb pakonceptueshme. \u201cShum\u00eb eksponent\u00eb\u201d dhe pastaj flet p\u00ebr nj\u00eb minist\u00ebr t\u00eb Brendsh\u00ebm, vite m\u00eb par\u00eb dhe pastaj shton Fatmir Xhaf\u00ebn, njeriu i cili dha dor\u00ebheqjen n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn m\u00eb qytetare, jo sepse kishte lidhje me ndonj\u00eb gj\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0I v\u00ebllai ishte i d\u00ebnuar n\u00eb Itali.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Do m\u00eb lini t\u00eb mbaroj?<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Absolutisht, po.<\/p>\n

Rama:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo sepse kishte lidhje me ndonj\u00eb gj\u00eb, po thjesht p\u00ebr nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje morale. N\u00eb rregull? Pas nj\u00eb sulmi me balt\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilin ka nj\u00eb proces gjyq\u00ebsor q\u00eb vazhdon dhe p\u00ebrbalt\u00ebsi q\u00eb ishte n\u00eb vij\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb d\u00ebnuar nga gjykata e shkall\u00ebs s\u00eb par\u00eb. B\u00ebn pjes\u00eb n\u00eb grupin politik q\u00eb e furnizon me k\u00ebto gj\u00ebra.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Pse \u00ebsht\u00eb gjysm\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. Ka nj\u00eb dokument p\u00ebr dhurimin e tok\u00ebs dhe kemi intervistuar protagonistin e drejtp\u00ebrdrejt\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb Lisi, ish-kreu i Interpolit.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u00eb falni, un\u00eb i kam lexuar t\u00eb gjitha dokumentet, fal\u00eb jush, sepse ju nuk ia lexuat publikut italian, se aty i kishit t\u00eb tre. At\u00ebher\u00eb, k\u00ebtu b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb histori krejt ndryshe dhe ju flisni edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb narkotrafikant, flisni p\u00ebr \u00a0nj\u00eb person\u2026<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2026p\u00ebr drejt\u00ebsin\u00eb italiane, Artur Shehu \u00ebsht\u00eb i d\u00ebrguar n\u00eb gjykat\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Flet p\u00ebr nj\u00eb njeri q\u00eb un\u00eb nuk e njoh.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Artur Shehu.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Mund edhe ta njihja, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb\u2026 por nuk m\u00eb rezulton t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb person i d\u00ebnuar, nuk m\u00eb rezulton. I d\u00ebrguar p\u00ebr gjykim \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb, i d\u00ebnuar \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Kreu i Interpolit nuk mund t\u00eb marr\u00eb tok\u00eb nga dikush q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00ebn hetim.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0E para kjo. E dyta, flisni p\u00ebr di\u00e7ka q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e pav\u00ebrtet\u00eb, sepse nuk ka pasur asnj\u00eb nd\u00ebrveprim, asnj\u00eb nd\u00ebrveprim, n\u00eb rolin e avokatit, nga Sekretari i P\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm i K\u00ebshillit t\u00eb Ministrave me k\u00ebt\u00eb subjekt kur ishte avokat. Dhe k\u00ebt\u00eb nuk e that\u00eb n\u00eb program.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00cbsht\u00eb ajo q\u00eb na tha Lisi.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Jo, jo<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Na konfirmoi nd\u00ebrveprimin, nuk tha q\u00eb ishte takuar me narkotrafikant sepse personi i nd\u00ebrmjet\u00ebm ishte arrestuar\u2026 nuk e di si e kishte emrin.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Koka juaj \u00ebsht\u00eb e mbushur plot me emra dhe nuk po dini m\u00eb as ku t\u2019i vini. Un\u00eb nuk dua t\u2019ia di p\u00ebr emra.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Po emri i nd\u00ebrmjet\u00ebm \u00ebsht\u00eb me interes, se \u00ebsht\u00eb me interes p\u00ebr Artur Shehun, e njeh shum\u00eb mir\u00eb Engj\u00ebll Aga\u00e7in.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Nuk m\u00eb interesojn\u00eb emrat, nuk i njoh. Un\u00eb flas p\u00ebr fakte.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Mir\u00eb, pra.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb flas p\u00ebr faktet.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Edhe un\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Jo, ju nuk flisni p\u00ebr faktet, ju flisni vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr gjysm\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrteta q\u00eb jan\u00eb g\u00ebnjeshtrat m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Akoma nuk m\u00eb keni th\u00ebn\u00eb se cila \u00ebsht\u00eb g\u00ebnjeshtra, gjysm\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00c7\u2019hyn tani nj\u00eb avokat, q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb marr\u00eb nga nj\u00eb grup personash t\u00eb besuar t\u00eb nj\u00eb t\u00eb vdekuri q\u00eb kishte pasur prona n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, me origjin\u00eb shqiptare, i cili kishte prona n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0E tham\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ai kishte nj\u00eb prokur\u00eb nga gjykata p\u00ebr t\u00eb ushtruar detyr\u00ebn e vet si avokat, q\u00eb nuk e ushtroi m\u00eb kur u b\u00eb Sekretar i P\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm. \u00c7\u2019hyn ai me k\u00ebt\u00eb historin\u00eb e gjeneralit k\u00ebtu, gjeneralit atje. \u00c7\u2019lidhje ka? Pse keni v\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb mes nj\u00eb avokat, i cili nuk ka lidhje kurrkund me gjith\u00eb pjes\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr t\u00eb historis\u00eb, q\u00eb as nuk e njoh dhe as nuk m\u00eb intereson. Sepse donit t\u00eb provonit \u2013 dhe prap\u00eb doni ta b\u00ebni, e shoh, e parafytyroj tani edhe serin\u00eb e re \u2013 doni t\u00eb vazhdoni t\u00eb provoni q\u00eb Xhorxha Meloni ka b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb marr\u00ebveshje t\u00eb gabuar me nj\u00eb qeveri plot hije. Dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e turpshme! Mir\u00eb? Sepse nuk p\u00ebrkon me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn dhe p\u00ebrb\u00ebhet nga gjysm\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrteta. M\u00eb flisni p\u00ebr ministrin e tret\u00eb t\u00eb Brendsh\u00ebm q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb sot dhe m\u00eb thoni, \u201cn\u00eb nj\u00eb telefonat\u00eb midis dy\u2026\u201d. Ku di gj\u00eb un\u00eb p\u00ebr telefonata\u2026 Jo, m\u00eb falni. Ku di gj\u00eb un\u00eb p\u00ebr telefonatat midis personave q\u00eb mund t\u00eb thon\u00eb, \u201cO, e takova un\u00eb at\u00eb. Kam takuar Edi Ram\u00ebn, m\u00eb tha, i thash\u00eb\u2026\u201d. Po ku e di un\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb? Po si mund t\u2019i nxirrni k\u00ebshtu k\u00ebto gj\u00ebra? Ajo telefonat\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb cil\u00ebn fol\u00ebt, duhet jet\u00eb e lidhur me fakte. Pastaj, n\u00ebse faktet e mb\u00ebshtesin, n\u00eb rregull. Po si mund t\u00eb merren n\u00eb dosje telefonata, kjo, ajo, dhe t\u00eb dal\u00ebsh e t\u2019i thuash publikut, \u201cka pasur nj\u00eb telefonat\u00eb\u201d. Ka pasur nj\u00eb telefonat\u00eb? Po \u00e7far\u00eb pastaj? Un\u00eb hap telefonin \u2013 dhe ka raste q\u00eb nuk njoh as numrat \u2013 hap telefonin dhe flas. Fakti duhet ndjekur. Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, \u00e7far\u00eb ka ndodhur m\u00eb pas? Un\u00eb, tani, po m\u00ebsoj \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb thot\u00eb demokraci.<\/p>\n

Rai3<\/strong>: Po iu m\u00ebson t\u00eb tjer\u00ebve\u2026<\/p>\n

Rama:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo, jo. Po e m\u00ebsoj un\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Ah, ju.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Duke ju par\u00eb juve, un\u00eb po m\u00ebsoj \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb thot\u00eb ta mbrosh demokracin\u00eb nga gjysm\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetat. Sepse, n\u00eb em\u00ebr t\u00eb demokracis\u00eb dhe t\u00eb liris\u00eb, gjysm\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetat dhe g\u00ebnjeshtrat dit\u00ebt e sotme kan\u00eb marr\u00eb p\u00ebrmasa t\u00eb jasht\u00ebzakonshme. I kuptoj rrjetet sociale, i kuptoj, po ky \u00ebsht\u00eb sh\u00ebrbimi publik italian. Po si b\u00ebhet kjo, si b\u00ebhen gj\u00ebra t\u00eb tilla?!<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0Kryeminist\u00ebr, ne radhisim fakte, d\u00ebshmi t\u00eb besueshme, po jo vet\u00ebm ne n\u00eb Itali. Gazetaria e lir\u00eb dhe e pavarur k\u00ebt\u00eb b\u00ebn. Un\u00eb ju kam paraqitur vet\u00ebm fakte, ju thash\u00eb, nj\u00eb burim i besuesh\u00ebm. Ju \u00e7far\u00eb thoni?<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ju nuk m\u00eb keni rreshtuar deri tani, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn deri tani, asnj\u00eb fakt.<\/p>\n

Rai3:<\/strong>\u00a0K\u00ebshtu e vler\u00ebsoni ju. M\u00eb vjen keq q\u00eb e shihni k\u00ebshtu.<\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ju m\u00eb keni rreshtuar\u2026 Jo, jo, m\u00eb thoni ju ku jan\u00eb faktet. Ju m\u00eb keni rreshtuar\u2026<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

INTERVISTA Rama:\u00a0Jo, jo. M\u00eb lini t\u00eb mbaroj. Tani sapo that\u00eb nj\u00eb g\u00ebnjesht\u00ebr tjet\u00ebr. That\u00eb \u201cshum\u00eb eksponent\u00eb t\u00eb qeveris\u00eb suaj\u201d. Kush jan\u00eb k\u00ebta? Rai3:\u00a0Ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb minist\u00ebr i Brendsh\u00ebm. Rama:\u00a0Ah, nj\u00eb. Rai3:\u00a0Ishte ministri pasardh\u00ebs, Xhafa, q\u00eb nuk kishte gabuar, po dha dor\u00ebheqjen menj\u00ebher\u00eb m\u00eb pas. \u00cbsht\u00eb ministri aktual i Brendsh\u00ebm. Ka nj\u00eb bised\u00eb midis dy krer\u00ebve …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":81090,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[37],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-81089","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","","category-politike"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81089","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=81089"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81089\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/81090"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=81089"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=81089"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rdnews.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=81089"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}